Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review

[Sean McMahon]

If voiceover is built-in, does this mean you can configure/install a whole
operating system from scratch without sited assistance?  I don't know how more
built-in you could get then speakup which is patched into the kernel.  If you
mean comes with linux, well what comes with linux depends on you really.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net>
To: "Jane Lee" <applegoddess at gmail.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for
Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Planning a VoiceOver Main Menu Review


> I have a hard time conceivingg of a kernel based access as "stand
> alone."
>
> Still, but really tickles me is that you mention Speakup in the same
> breath with JAWS, and you even mention it first.
>
> Seems we've arrived.
>
> Jane Lee writes:
> > I'd just like to make it clear that VoiceOver is built into the Mac OS
> > X operating system, not a standalone program like speakup or Jaws.
> > After Freedom Scientific and others gave up on the Mac platform
> > because of the even smaller market, Apple and their devs figured they
> > should do all of the accessibility work in house, and that's how
> > VoiceOver started.
> >
> > You cannot, I repeat, cannot, port VoiceOver to another OS like
> > Windows or Linux.  It relies on the Mac OS too much.  This also means
> > that VoiceOver cannot work on an iPod.
> >
> > On another matter, the cheapest Mac out there is 500 dollars, and is
> > called the Mac mini.  Since the new operating system came out on the
> > 29th of April, as of now, if you go online or to a store and buy the
> > Mac mini, it will come with the OS and VoiceOver.  If you're planning
> > on going out maybe today or within the next week, inquire about
> > whether or not it comes with Tiger, which is the OS that VoiceOver
> > comes with, and not Panther just in case.  Be warned, the Mac mini
> > does not come with a keyboard, a mouse or a monitor.  This computer
> > was meant for PC and Mac users already with older computers that don't
> > mind keeping their old setups.  Mac laptops, such as the iBook or the
> > Powerbook, start at around 1000 dollars.
> >
> > Voiceover is not an additional application that you have to pay for,
> > it comes with the OS, which is 129 dollars.  Some third party
> > retailers will have it at a discounted price, while schools, teachers
> > and college students will be able to buy the OS from Apple or a
> > university bookstore at the education price, which is 69 dollars.  A
> > "family pack" that gives you a license for use up to 5 computers is
> > 200 dollars but has restrictions and only comes with one install disk.
> >
> > Personally, I haven't been able to try out VoiceOver much on my Mac,
> > but I found that the accessible installation of OS X, the VoiceOver
> > enabled login menu and the overall integration makes it fun and easy
> > to use.  There's no serial number to install the OS and there's no
> > activation (like Windows) either.
> >
> > If you have any specifics on how to use a Mac, go to the local Apple
> > retail store and ask one of the people there.  The genius bar at all
> > the stores should be able to help you out with setup (like turning on
> > VoiceOver for the first time).  If you have technical questions on
> > problems with your Mac, feel free to drop me an email :)  I can help
> > out with most of the smaller issues.
> >
> > If you're looking for anything in particular though (about Apple,
> > their computers, anything, really) feel free to drop me an email.
> >
> > cheers
> > jane
> >
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> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org
>
> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
>
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