The Fedora duck that thought it was a...? (was RE: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed)

[Adrian Beech]

G'day,

Okay I'm probably adding fuel to the fire... I'm fairly new to the FC
variant and have been mildly baffled by the the naming conventione employed
by the keepers of the code base and I'd really like a much more definitive
explaination, if possible, as to when a duck is not a duck.  Surely Janina
if you know the answers which support the reasonings then perhaps you could
enlighten us all instead of, ummmmm, hmmmmm, ummmmm... being (and don't take
this the wrong way) aggressive in your tone and attitude.  If you don't know
the where and why fores just say so, huh?

My sincere apologies to all if this response is seen as to be inflammatory
in nature.  It is not my intention to persist the present tones which seem
to be evolving from this thread.  I too merely seek a response that makes
sense and is one that I can understand.

Cheers.
AB (...a confused duck conservationist!)

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:
speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 4:39 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Speakup Modified Fedora 4 Will Be Delayed


It's quite clear you think Red Hat should have a different policy. Take it
up with them. I really don't give a damm about that.

Dawes, Stephen writes:
> Yes you have answered that portion of the question, but you refuse to
> answer the question about where in the rpm naming convention does it 
> tell me where the level of patching is indicated. You have said that 
> the kernel is a 2.6.11 kernel that has a number of patches that makes 
> it appear to be a 2.6.12 kernel. So do you or don't you know where it 
> tells this information in the rpm naming convention and where exactly 
> it is located in the kernel-2.6.11-1.136_FC4.i686.rpm name.
> 
> There is an old cliché that goes something like, "if it walks like a
> duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck." 
> Well, as I said a long while back, if it looks like kernel-2.6.12, and 
> it acts like kernel 2.6.12, then don't call it something that it isn't 
> as fedora has done.
> 
> Janina, I have noticed something about the way in which you answer
> questions over the years. That is that you don't answer the entire
question, but that you only answer the portion of the question that you feel
like. This approach only provides partial information, and often is not what
the requestor is looking for. You wrote that you maintain the fedora speakup
modified howto, and for the work you do on this document it is good.
However, your howto is only an installation document, and when people want
to go beyond the information provided you start to get defensive and call
their quest for information things like idle speculation. Janina, what is
idle information is partial answers like the ones that you are in the habit
of providing to peoples questions.
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes at calgary.ca
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