elinks: Harmless Button

[Sina Bahram]

Hi Janina,

The reason I ask is because I find myself in that position, but I'm not so
sure I would have the time to devote to such a legal pursuit, especially
with the difficulties I am having with my current DSS department in the
university.

Anyways, I digress off topic, but thanks for the update.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:19 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: elinks: Harmless Button

I may be wrong, but I don't think there's any new movement, unfortunately.

We should probably re-evaluate given developments (as discussed on this
list) re elinks and javascript.

I think someone willing to see it through would be in good shape filing a
complaint under the ADA with the Justice Dept.

Sina Bahram writes:
>  Hi Janina,
> 
> Speaking of financial institutions ... What is the latest and greatest 
> on that front?
> 
> For example, if my credit card/bank's website is inaccessible ... Is 
> there anything at all one can do asides from the usual phone calls to 
> unknowledgeable individuals?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:12 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: elinks: Harmless Button
> 
> Fascinating. Thanks for posting.
> 
> If I follow this correctly, the button is the code that reads:
> 
> <script
> src="https://seal.verisign.com/getseal?host_name=payments.verisign.com
> &size= M&use_flash=NO&use_transparent=NO"></script>
> 
> If I had to guess, I'd say this was a graphic intended to give you 
> confidence in the Book Share SSL Certificate. But, why that requires a 
> script, or to be wrapped in a div is beyond me. Might be worth a note 
> to Book Share only because they may have better access to Verisgn for 
> accessibility issues. I definitely think there are several 
> accessibility issues with both the form and this "button."
> 
> I don't think Book Share is authorized to just recode this, if it 
> really is what I think it is. On the other hand, we need the financial 
> services industry to get a better grip on accessibility, and our 
> national organizations haven't made much headway in this regard yet. I 
> suspect Book Share might get a at least a ripple of consciousness from 
> Verisign out of this. At the absolute least they should know that one 
> of their power users found the usage inaccessible--meaning that the 
> bulk of their users would be even more befuddled.
> 
> Steve Holmes writes:
> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 01:24:57PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Best way to answer this question is to examine the source code. 
> > > With the cat we would use the capital 'E' to expose the text of 
> > > the anchor link (<a [text]> </a>)
> > > 
> > > Can we do that with the chain? I must confess I don't know, even 
> > > though I also use elinks sometimes.
> > > 
> > Yes, I checked and normally the Capital E key will do likewise; 
> > since this is a button however, it doesn't work.  I will attach the 
> > relevant part of the actual HTML so you can see what I mean.  I will 
> > strip out the bulk of the rest of the form because it contains 
> > personal information and it would be quite large.  It is the last 
> > table in the form and I will include it now.  When the screen is 
> > showing, you have one button on the form and the text of it says "Return
to Bookshare.org.
> > So I think this particular form might actually come from Verisign.
> 
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