frustrated

Janina Sajka janina at rednote.net
Sat Jan 1 17:25:28 EST 2005


Nothing wrong with changing your mind. Nothing wrong with wanting
something more. Plenty of trouble for going about things haphazardly,
though.

So, you had a working sound installation but muddled it up because you
heard some other technology approach was better?

OK, nothing wrong with chasing greener pastures, either. But, if you
start in the middle, and listen to just anybody on the net, you aren't
very likely to succeed.

I guess I'm still unclear why you would feel so frustrated you would
want to give up on Linux. After all, it hasn't failed you. If anyone has
failed you, you've failed yourself with questionable approaches and
certainly with inconsistent expectations.

What would I do were I you at this point? I guess I'd look around for a
2.6 kernel with Speakup already in it. Don't know if the Debian
community yet provides such a thing, but alsa comes by default with 2.6
kernels.

You want to go piece by piece? No problem.


Glenn at home writes:
> You are right there,
> But one thing leads to another.
> I still maintain that I don't want too much on here, at least as far as 
> packages.
> But this all started out because I was starting to install Emacspeak, and it 
> appeared that I should have sound working first.
> So I do want a couple utilities, as I just installed Lynx, so I can get 
> utilities for making it work easier, as opposed to constantly copying it 
> over from my XP box via the network, and then moving them in Debian.
> But even at this point, if it all came crashing down, I would not be 
> devistated, but who knows, next year I may have built up more stuff on here.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net>
> To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net>
> Cc: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: frustrated
> 
> 
> iAnd, is this same machine that you only wanted to run an ftp server on
> last month? So, you chose Debian because Fedora would require you to
> download 4 iso images?
> 
> Didn't this start out as "which distro is better?'
> 
> What do you say about that now, half a month later?
> 
> Glenn at home writes:
> > When I looked into it, both on this list, and on the www, there was little
> > to no mention of oss, and it began to sound like Alsa is better.
> > Glenn
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net>
> > To: "Glenn at home" <GlennErvin at cableone.net>; "Speakup is a screen review
> > system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: frustrated
> >
> >
> > OK. So we've established you have the OSS drivers.
> >
> > Now, the other question in my last email--there were two questions.
> >
> > Why alsa particularly? Why isn't OSS good enough?
> >
> > Glenn at home writes:
> > > I got 3 lines that refer to emu10k1
> > > input
> > > sound
> > > midi
> > > and the midi line is the only one with a Y at the end, the other 2 have 
> > > an
> > > M.
> > > Glenn
> > > Try this:
> > >
> > > grep -i emu10k [config.filename]
> > >
> > > If that comes back with "yes" or "m", then your kernel comes with the
> > > OSS drivers, not ALSA, which would be expected in 2.4 kernels.
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Chair
> > Accessibility Workgroup
> > Free Standards Group (FSG)
> >
> > janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> >
> > If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different 
> > problem.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> janina at freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> 
> If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina at freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

If Linux doesn't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.





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