getting off my windows dependency

jim grimsby jimgrims at pacbell.net
Mon Apr 4 16:23:17 EDT 2005


Well this is according to my teacher but he said that is the way it
should be and he told us to use paragraph markers. Hth 

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[mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: getting off my windows dependency


The w3c says you have to put each link on a seperate line?  As someone
who writes some web content how is that possable?  Mind pointing out
where it says such a thing?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim grimsby" <jimgrims at pacbell.net>
To: "'Farhan'" <i.am.Farhan at gmail.com>; "'Speakup is a screen review
system for Linux.'" <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Re[2]: getting off my windows dependency




well, look at it this way. with window eyes and jaws they put each link
on one line each. with supernova it doesn't do that. see, it differs
even in windows. with lynx and elynx you look at it from a sorta sighted
perspective, with out the websites beeing all processed. Note according
to the w3c links should be on there own line! So the screen reader
forcing it to be so is just forcing it to look like the w3c says it
should look.  I personally like this feature quite well in windows and
would be happy to see it echoed here in lynx.  on 4/4/2005
janina at rednote.netJanina Sajka said Why would browsing by line, word, or
char be a browser feature? It seems to me such functionality is the
responsibility of the assistive technology, not the browser.

Also, when you say "tab browsing," what does that mean? Is there some
unique definition of tab browsing in elinks?


Sergei V. Fleytin writes:
> Hello, listers,
>
> >>>>> "m" == mikster4  <mikster4 at msn.com> writes:
>
> m> I was maening more that it is not how the web browser works itself,

> m> it is something inserted by the screen reader. Normally you can't 
> m> cursor around the page in a web browser, only jump between the 
> m> controls. Maybe it is my mistake, but I thought the person was 
> m> expecting this behaviour to be in the web browser.
>
> I'd like to make some comment concerning this topic. Both links2 and 
> elinks allow users to navigate within a page like in an editor. Links2

> provide what they call "braille terminal" wich, in my opinion is a 
> very cool and convenient feature. Elinks also can be customize to 
> behave in similar fashion though it would not be as blind friendly as 
> braille terminal in links2. But elinks has so many cool features, 
> including tab browsing, that it really worth our attention. Below is a

> fragment from my elinks.conf wich allow to move by characters and 
> lines within elinks using vi-like keybindings.
>
>
> bind "main" "k" = "move-cursor-up"
> bind "main" "l" = "move-cursor-right"
> bind "main" "h" = "move-cursor-left"
> bind "main" "j" = "move-cursor-down"
>
> set ui.show_status_bar = 0
>
> I hope it would be useful for someone.
>
>
> --
> With best regards, Sergei.
>
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