getting off my windows dependency

Janina Sajka janina at rednote.net
Mon Apr 4 14:37:58 EDT 2005


OK. This makes some sense, but I suspect we agree it can be a nuisance
for adapted browsing.

After reading your description--and thinking about your strategy for
handling "tab browsing," I think I still prefer the way this works on
the cat, meaning the cat's backspace key feature.

Kenny Hitt writes:
> Hi.
> 
> Tab browsing is a feature found in Mozilla as well as elinks.  The idea
> is you have several pages open in a single browser session and you
> switch between them by switching tabs.  Consider a javascript that pops
> up a new window.  If it does it in a new tab, you can get back to the
> actual site easily in the text console.
> BTW, Mozilla actually opens a new Window instead of a tab which
> can make browsing some sites a real pain.  Since the new
> windows are not accessible most of the time you are forced to alt-tab
> until you find the origional window displayint the site.
> Due to Mozilla's limited accessibility, I've found it a bad idea to
> close these windows.  It gets frustrating when you end up closing what
> you think is the add only to find you closed the window displaying the
> actual site.  With tabs, the "windows" are kept in the browser instead
> of becoming another task on your window list.
> 
> Hope this helps.
>           Kenny
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:10:03AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Why would browsing by line, word, or char be a browser feature? It seems
> > to me such functionality is the responsibility of the assistive
> > technology, not the browser.
> > 
> > Also, when you say "tab browsing," what does that mean? Is there some
> > unique definition of tab browsing in elinks?
> > 
> > 
> > Sergei V. Fleytin writes:
> > > Hello, listers,
> > > 
> > > >>>>> "m" == mikster4  <mikster4 at msn.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > m> I was maening more that it is not how the web browser works itself,
> > > m> it is something inserted by the screen reader. Normally you can't
> > > m> cursor around the page in a web browser, only jump between the
> > > m> controls. Maybe it is my mistake, but I thought the person was
> > > m> expecting this behaviour to be in the web browser.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to make some comment concerning this topic. Both links2 and
> > > elinks allow users to navigate within a page like in an editor. Links2
> > > provide what they call "braille terminal" wich, in my opinion is a
> > > very cool and convenient feature. Elinks also can be customize to
> > > behave in similar fashion though it would not be as blind friendly as
> > > braille terminal in links2. But elinks has so many cool features,
> > > including tab browsing, that it really worth our attention. Below is a
> > > fragment from my elinks.conf wich allow to move by characters and
> > > lines within elinks using vi-like keybindings.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > bind "main" "k" = "move-cursor-up"
> > > bind "main" "l" = "move-cursor-right"
> > > bind "main" "h" = "move-cursor-left"
> > > bind "main" "j" = "move-cursor-down"
> > > 
> > > set ui.show_status_bar = 0
> > > 
> > > I hope it would be useful for someone.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > With best regards, Sergei.
> > > 
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> > Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
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> > 
> > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > janina at freestandards.org		http://a11y.org
> > 
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Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina at freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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