Shaun's comments re: Speechd-up Issues

[Steve Holmes]

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Yes, my thoughts likewise.  I don't think any of us are complaining
but trying to get answers and perhaps help improve the product.  If we
just chocked it up to "free stuff" and did or said nothing about it,
we would probably never get it to work.  I saved a bunch of mails on
this subject and leaned heavily on them for reference to get me
going.  What a big help! The basic steps are in place and it pretty
much works.  I make my observations public to see what others have
encountered and the author of speech dispatcher has been participating
on the list here so his input is valuable.  I know others have made
suggestions and the resulting CVS pulls yielded me a better working
setup.

It's one thing to ask questions and make observations, but complaining
and demanding corrections is another matter.

On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 12:42:46AM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Shaun:
> several of us have been working very hard at getting speechd_up to run; it
> doesn't work for everybody in the same way all the time. and not everybody
> has to follow your magic steps; the debian packages work fine without
> having to compile and install; I've never needed to use the -s flag
> either, though I'm not criticizing you if that helped you; I did it
> because it
> was a suggestion but it has never been necessary for me. As a
> matter of fact, I can load it fine by hand but it doesn't work for me from
> any script, before, during or after login. when somebody else had the same
> problem, i posted saying that was my experience too and of course when
> Chuck gave his suggestions about how it works for him, suggestions which
> I'd already seen and tried, but they are logical suggestions and I'm glad
> they work for him, I posted to
> say no, that wasn't my problem. Now if you want to consider it whining
> when people post that there's a problem and go back and forth trying to
> find out why, that's your prerogative.
> Some of us have a problem with running it from scripts; you may have a
> problem with something else some other day, but if you think we are just
> WHINING because we're trying to find out why and posting in case somebody
> else may come across the answer, just don't bother reading this thread.
> those of us who have a problem have probably not worked any less hard than
> you, and i truly don't appreciate your characterizations. I don't think
> anybody who has posted about this is WHININg; I don't think it's
> necessary
> for people to pretend everything is hunky-dory with a new program and I
> don't think it's some kind of disloyalty to bring it out in the open.
> there is obviously some kind of bug or glitch that some of us are
> experiencing and trying to get to the bottom of; it's not likely that
> we are going at this point to loook at somebody's steps and say, "Oh
> how stupid of me; I forgot something obvious" though it could happen
> and it never hurts to review the steps. The fact that you escaped
> experiencing this particular problem  doesn't make the rest of us less
> competent or less
> hard-working than you, and it certainly doesn't make us WHINERS!!!!!
> !!
> It was nice of you to re-state your steps so concisely; had you done that
> without judging those of us who are having trouble and daring to post
> about it, there would have been nothing but appreciation from this
> quarter. I do indeed have a working speech dispatcher, a working
> speechd_up, and a working speakup, even though I have to avoid loading
> speechd_up via a script at this point; I even have them working to some
> extent with cepstral and I'm very pleased about that as I like those
> voices a lot. But as long as I have a problem using scripts with
> speechd_up, and as long as there's a chance somebody else has the same
> problem and/or may find the solution to it, I'm going to post on this
> subject. so when you see:
> subject: speechd_up Issues
> and my name, if you consider it whining, PLEASE, just SKIP IT.

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