linux and accessibility applications

Keith Watson Kwatson at smed.yi.org
Sat Mar 27 08:29:48 EST 2004


Well you are right, that note will probably start a flame war. 
And it's too bad too, because ignorant statements like that one 
should be ignored. But here I sit with my attitude in hand 
replying to it.

You learned the Linux shell? Apparently not, because if you had 
you would not have made a statement like that. You used linux to 
set up a server and then continue to work on a winblows box? For 
what reason? I can only think of two reasons that I ever actually 
like to return to that environment. The first is surfing the web. 
As tedious as it is I have to admit that the Internet exploder 
with a screen reader does lend to a more pleasant day on the 
ether. The second is OCR. So far I have yet to find a OCR package 
for linux that compares to the ones under winblows.

As far as control over my environment goes, I have total control 
under linux. I don't have to figure out what check boxes or 
radial buttons are or are not checked, whether or not I am in the 
correct frame, or sub menu in order to configure that one little 
irritating problem that I am having. 

So until you really do learn the Linux system and how it has 
brought back control over our systems to us, don't make 
statements like that.

Sorry for replying to this guys, but it pissed me off.

On 07:55 AM, Rejean Proulx wrote:
> I am a good example of what he is talking about.  I learned the Linux shell
> in order to create a server, which I am extremely happy with.  I still use
> Windows for most things and will continue to do so until Linux GUI equals
> Windows, or at least comes close.  Current Linux shell is hard to use if
> blanks are in file names and so on and on and on.  It is really like using a
> big modern DOS.  A note like this will likely start a flame war, but so be
> it.  Linux can't let the world go by and leave all blind people on a shell.
> It didn't work in Dos and Windows, and it won't hold in Linux either.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom and Esther Ward" <tward1978 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: linux and accessibility applications
> 
> 
> Hi. I realize that most of Linux users love the shell, but there is a reason
> for the curren trends to add accessibility to the GUI, java swing, and other
> GUI  based stuff. First, that is the way in which 99% of all sighted users
> operate, and one way or another staying at the shell prompt will restrict us
> equal access to flagship applications. Second, the large majority of
> disabled computer users have grown in to Windows, and those I've asked will
> not even try Linux until something like the Gnome accessibility project
> matures enough that is equal with Jaws and Windows.
> So in the end there is nothing silly in the trend at all, but we can only
> have something else to gain. What we do with it will end up being decided by
> personal preference.
> Hth.
> 
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