nano or pico are your best bets they're easy enough to use. emacs and vi are both a steep learning curve but benificial in the end. hth -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman