incidentally, the commandline args I used were these. cdrecord -dummy -dao -overburn -dev=0,0,0 KNOPPIX_v3.2-2003-07-26-EN-speakup.iso -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman