Yes and yes. The version of Lilo on the Debian CD's does support ntfs, and it will install on the MBR with no trouble even after winnt/xp has been installed. Lorenzo -- if (argc > 1 && strcmp(argv[1], "-advice") == 0) { printf("Don't Panic!\n"); exit(42); } (Arnold Robbins in the LJ of February '95, describing RCS)