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[Lorenzo Prince]

I believe it is loaded after all the drives are detected and it knows
where the ide ports are and which one has the CDRW drive.  This can be
compiled as a module, but it isn't necessary to have it start immediately.
It can start at any time before the CDRW drive is used for writing.
Basically, my point was that a module has to be loaded either from a
script, from the command line, or in /etc/modules.conf using the module
loader.  Even if run from the /etc/rc.d/rc.S script, a module won't be
loaded before any text is printed to the screen.  This is why I thought,
in the case of a modularized speakup, that it would probably still be
necessary to patch the kernel itself to cause it to buffer console output
until the Speakup module is actually loaded, as someone mentioned in an
earlier post on this thread.

Lorenzo

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Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:

> Lorenzo Prince writes:
> >
> > Not sure.  In my Slackware 9 kernel, ide-scsi is compiled into the kernel
> > by default according to the .config file in the source tree.
>
> And, according to the Configure.help file in /usr/src/linux/Documentation it can be compiled as a module.
>
> Do you know when it's loaded?
>
> >
> > Lorenzo
> >
> >
> > E Pluribus Unix
> >
> > Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
> >
> > > Not so fast. Maybe you're correct, and maybe not. Are you familiar with the ide-scsi module? When does that one get loaded--if it's to be loaded?
> > >
> > > I cite ide-scsi as an example to you. Sayhing "later than the kernel" covers a lot of time, and pretty much the entire stack.
> > >
> > > Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > > > From: Lorenzo Prince <lorenzo at princenet.sytes.net>
> > > >
> > > > Kernel modules are loaded later than the kernel itself.  Unless there is a
> > > > buffer in the kernel to keep track of the console text before the module
> > > > is loaded, it won't catch all the text from the beginning.
> > > >
> > > > Lorenzo
> > > >
> > > > E Pluribus Unix
> > > >
> > > > Janina Sajka staggered into view and mumbled:
> > > >
> > > > > Lorenzo Prince writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ... A modularized speakup [...] would lack some of the things we
> > > > > > have come to love about Speakup, such as being able to hear all the boot
> > > > > > messages or to scroll back the console through them.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So says you. Do you know this for a fact, or are you supposing this? Care to explain?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You did state it as fact.
> > > > >
> > > > > 				Janina
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
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