redHat advanced server 2.0 and speakup

[Janina Sajka]

OK. You mean kernel as in kernel.org. I took your comment in context of Red Hat only, as RH has been the hot button item.

In the case of the generic Linux kernel, you are correct. Speakup isn't under consideration, so I apologize for that misunderstanding. 

Not that you were particularly clear--but that's beside the point.

Aaron Howell writes:
> From: Aaron Howell <aaron at kitten.net.au>
> 
> Its simple really,
> This wasn't at all an attack on redHat, it was a simple statement of fact.
> Speakup _isn't_ part of the default kernel yet, and to the best of my knowledge, its only thus far made it as far as alan Cox's test kernels.
> Nothing that could in any way harm the stability of RH Advanced Server has any hope of getting into their kernel.
> Unlike the situation with the generic RedHat operating system, this is a good and necessary thing.
> The reason being that commercial vendors have spent countless amounts of time testing their software to make sure it functions correctly with the RH Advanced Server kernel,
> and to change the kernel in any significant way, (and I dare say RH would consider Speakup to be a significant way)
> Would invalidate much of that testing.
> Of course every time there's a re-release of RH Advanced server, the validation needs to be re-done against the whole operating system, but the chances of getting something as major as speakup included in an incremental kernel upgrade aren't particularly good.
> it, like most other technologies, will probably spend quite a bit of time in either the main linux kernel, or the RedHat modified kernel before it is considered for inclusion in Advanced Server.
> This isn't a slight on people with a disability, its a necessary evil to keep AS in a sane state, and RedHat has too much invested in it to not do so.
> Yes, I disagree with much of what redHat's done wrt disability support, but in this case they have a good business case for not acting too hastily.
> Please try to read what I'm saying in context before you fire off attacks like the below.
> Regards
> Aaron
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 11:08:36AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Stop making up things.
> > 
> > You were fine until you wrote:
> > 
> > Aaron Howell writes:
> > > 
> > > The chances of something like Speakup, which isn't even up for consideration for inclusion in the main kernel yet
> > 
> > You don't know that. So, why do you bother to assert such a thing? It's not even germane to this thread.
> > 
> > What's with all this make believe? What need is it satisfying for you?
> > 
> > I certainly understand that you might feel angry with RH over the way you were treated over your RCE. That makes a lot of sense. But, making things up
> > by way of some kind of revenge is just inappropriate behavior.
> > 
> > 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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