redHat advanced server 2.0 and speakup

Wed Apr 16 01:32:24 EDT 2003

No, its not.
You're welcome to patch it.
you just can't redistribute your changes.
and they won't patch it for you.
There's no gpl violation, they're just placing their own distribution under a more restrictive license.
Their argument being that, if you want their features, you agree to their license,
or you're free to go and get the linux kernel and do with it what you will.
You _can_ use a standard linux kernel with RH Advanced Server, you just won't get support from RedHat if you do,
and, why pay that much for a product unless you want their support?
Regards
Aaron
On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 01:22:05AM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote:
> Just a minute here.  Are you telling me that Redhat is violating the terms
> of the license agreement that covers the Linux kernel by not allowing
> their Advanced Server kernel to be patched?  From what I understood of the
> GPL, that is a blatent violation of the terms and conditions for
> distributing Linux, either modified or unmodified.
> 
> Lorenzo
> 
> E Pluribus Unix
> 
> Darrell Shandrow staggered into view and mumbled:
> 
> > Hi Aaron,
> >
> > Can I assume that it is pretty much impossible to get RedHat to make any
> > sort of accomodation?  :-)  An accomodation might be to release a copy of
> > the Kernel, under some sort of NDA, to someone who is qualified to try and
> > patch it to support Speakup.  Then, RH could keep a copy of the patch Kernel
> > to provide on request, or otherwise include it on one of the CD-ROMs as a
> > suplement.
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron at kitten.net.au>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: redHat advanced server 2.0 and speakup
> >
> >
> > > Actually, its based on RedHat 7.1,
> > > and nothing is standard.
> > > You can't just use a 7.1 kernel, because the RH advanced server kernel is
> > *very* different.
> > > Coupled with the fact that you can't actually give out the software to
> > say, Kirk, for patching, your best bet might initially be sighted
> > assistance, then a hand patched kernel (if you can even get it to patch).
> > > That's going to be a fun one, I'd be interested in your success or
> > otherwise because I have to face that beast at work here soon too.
> > > Regards
> > > Aaron
> > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:23:33PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Easiest way is probably to get an already patched kernel. "Advanced
> > Server" will be based on one of the standard RH packagings, but I don't
> > recall which one. If it's
> > > > 7.3, you'd grab the latest kernel for 7.3, for example.
> > > >
> > > > Kernels for 7.3 and 8.0 are still available on the Speakup Modified page
> > via anonymous ftp to www.linux-speakup.org. Once logged in, cd
> > pub/speakup/disks/redhat and
> > > > take it from there.
> > > >
> > > > Else, you would grab the kernel-source, patch with the latest stable
> > Speakup 1.5 and compile. The rpm route above is much quicker and certainly
> > easier if you've not
> > > > compiled a kernel before.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don Raikes writes:
> > > > > From: "Don Raikes" <don.raikes at oracle.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >    Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > >    I have been working with RedHat 8.0 for a while now, but now my
> > boss says
> > > > >    I need to run redhat advanced server 2.0 because it is what our
> > software
> > > > >    is certified on.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Never having to have gone through this nightmare before, how do I
> > get
> > > > >    redhat as 2.0 installed without speakup, and how do I add speakup
> > to the
> > > > >    kernel once it is there?
> > > > >
> > > > >    Any pointers would be appreciated.
> > > > >    Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >    Don Raikes
> > > > >    home office (520) 579=-9481
> > > > >    HQ office (650) 506-9704
> > > >
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> > > >
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