redHat advanced server 2.0 and speakup

Aaron Howell aaron at kitten.net.au
Tue Apr 15 23:48:19 EDT 2003


Unfortunately, it'll be a cold day in hell before that ever happens.
RH Advanced Server is their premium pay-through-the-nose-and-then-some supported package.
Everything in the RH AS kernel would go through the testsuite from hell
before they'd even think of including it.
The chances of something like Speakup, which isn't even up for consideration for inclusion in the main kernel yet
getting into the Advanced Server kernel are less than none.
Heck, if they won't even let us use speakup in exams, what likelihood do you think there is of them
offering to have it in their premium product.
No, I think any developments that happen on that front will have to wait at least until Speakup is part of the default kernel.
Then it might accidentally make its way into a future release of Advanced Server.
Regards
Aaron
On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 08:21:55PM -0700, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> Can I assume that it is pretty much impossible to get RedHat to make any
> sort of accomodation?  :-)  An accomodation might be to release a copy of
> the Kernel, under some sort of NDA, to someone who is qualified to try and
> patch it to support Speakup.  Then, RH could keep a copy of the patch Kernel
> to provide on request, or otherwise include it on one of the CD-ROMs as a
> suplement.
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron at kitten.net.au>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: redHat advanced server 2.0 and speakup
> 
> 
> > Actually, its based on RedHat 7.1,
> > and nothing is standard.
> > You can't just use a 7.1 kernel, because the RH advanced server kernel is
> *very* different.
> > Coupled with the fact that you can't actually give out the software to
> say, Kirk, for patching, your best bet might initially be sighted
> assistance, then a hand patched kernel (if you can even get it to patch).
> > That's going to be a fun one, I'd be interested in your success or
> otherwise because I have to face that beast at work here soon too.
> > Regards
> > Aaron
> > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 10:23:33PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Easiest way is probably to get an already patched kernel. "Advanced
> Server" will be based on one of the standard RH packagings, but I don't
> recall which one. If it's
> > > 7.3, you'd grab the latest kernel for 7.3, for example.
> > >
> > > Kernels for 7.3 and 8.0 are still available on the Speakup Modified page
> via anonymous ftp to www.linux-speakup.org. Once logged in, cd
> pub/speakup/disks/redhat and
> > > take it from there.
> > >
> > > Else, you would grab the kernel-source, patch with the latest stable
> Speakup 1.5 and compile. The rpm route above is much quicker and certainly
> easier if you've not
> > > compiled a kernel before.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Don Raikes writes:
> > > > From: "Don Raikes" <don.raikes at oracle.com>
> > > >
> > > >    Hi all,
> > > >
> > > >    I have been working with RedHat 8.0 for a while now, but now my
> boss says
> > > >    I need to run redhat advanced server 2.0 because it is what our
> software
> > > >    is certified on.
> > > >
> > > >    Never having to have gone through this nightmare before, how do I
> get
> > > >    redhat as 2.0 installed without speakup, and how do I add speakup
> to the
> > > >    kernel once it is there?
> > > >
> > > >    Any pointers would be appreciated.
> > > >    Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >    Don Raikes
> > > >    home office (520) 579=-9481
> > > >    HQ office (650) 506-9704
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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> > > Technology Research and Development
> > > Governmental Relations Group
> > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > >
> > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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