speakup news

[Doug Sutherland]

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for the history ... well this is very inetersting because
Kirk recentkly said don't use the tarball and that the install
script wasn't supported. Also, the docs for installing the mods
for software synth indicate to use the CVS source code. So there
has been a bit of confusion, for me at least. Now it's clear. I
am going to try out the 1.5 speakup from the tarball and apply
the mods for software synth from that source.

I think it's generally a good idea to have a 'stable' release
anyways, and not have people using CVS code unless they are
developing speakup ... that's what most projects do ...

   -- Doug


At 06:28 AM 4/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Doug,
>
>Maybe a little history will be helpful here. I think it is fair
>to say that originally the general user was expected to use the
>tarball and patch the kernel manually with that package. The CVS
>stuff was originally intended for developers and folks willing to
>go to the bleeding edge. At some point however version 1.0
>reached its ceiling as far as kernel versions went, and the CVS
>route was the best choice for more current kernels. Maybe at that
>point the CVS option should have been elevated in prominence on
>the site, but it remained buried and hard for the newcomer to
>spot without being clued in by others. My impression is that
>version 1.5 is now a tarball packaging of the December CVS which
>everyone has been using effectively for some time.
>
>HTH - Chuck
>
>
>On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Doug wrote:
>
> > Oh ... I thought linux-speakup was speakup ... and I
> > didn't find that index page until long after I had
> > installed speakup and got it working. The problem is
> > this: the download page only mentions the tarball, and
> > there is no mention of cvs checkout inside the tarball
> > (at least not in the 1.0 version). The only reason I
> > found the index page is because it was mentioned on
> > this list. It's really not obvious on the web site.
> >
> >    -- Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > Luke wrote:
> >
> >
> > >What is happening, is that you are confusing the home page of
> > >linux-speakup.org, with the speakup main page.
> > >
> > >Linux-speakup.org, lists the various subprojects, of the speakup
> > >operation.  Of these, one (probably the primary), is the subproject with
> > >the same name as the site: speakup.  Its main page, linked to from the
> > >home page (read the top paragraph), is:
> > >
> > >http://www.linux-speakup.org/speakup.html
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Luke
> > >
> > >
> > >On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, Doug wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kirk,
> > > >
> > > > On my browser I don't see that ...
> > > >
> > > >  > That info is on the speakup page on the go to our index
> > > >  > page link. How much more clear does it need to be?
> > > >
> > > > I only see these links on the main page
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/
> > > >
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/projects.html
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/faq.html
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/download.html
> > > > http://speech.linux-speakup.org/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/reflector.html
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/joinspeakup.html
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/audio-links/index.html
> > > >
> > > > That's all I see ... I don't see a link to an index page.
> > > > Are we looking at the same page? Is this the main page?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.linux-speakup.org/
> > > >
> > > > Even looking at the html source directly, I see only
> > > > the links listed above. I see NO link to an index page.
> > > >
> > > >    -- Doug
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >   Kirk
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >
> > > > >Kirk Reiser                             The Computer Braille Facility
> > > > >e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca             University of Western Ontario
> > > > >phone: (519) 661-3061
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