RH9 disks on the net.

[Darrell Shandrow]

Hi Aaron,

Yeah, I believe RH would do something like this.  It seems to be just the
way of the land with this company.  Isn't it ironic?  Red Hat is a packager
and distributor of the open-source Linux platform, yet the company has
accessibility policies that are much more regressive than any of Cisco,
CompTIA, Microsoft, Novell, or Sun.  Red Hat should take some lessons from
Microsoft!!!  Note that all of the five other tech companies I have just
mentioned treat blind people better than does Red Hat.  Does anyone care?



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Howell" <aaron at kitten.net.au>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: RH9 disks on the net.


> Oh, and one more thing,
> They made me sign an agreement that
> "the provisions provided by Redhat were of my own chosing,
> and that it was RedHat's opinion that I may be putting myself at a
disadvantage by choosing to use such alternative arrangements."
> That is, they gave me absolutely no choice, then made me agree that it was
what I'd wanted all along.
> Regards
> Aaron
> On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 11:55:24PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Luke Davis writes:
> > > From: Luke Davis <ldavis at shellworld.net>
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > >
> > > > Luke Davis writes:
> >
> > False.
> >
> >
> > There is no evidence of any deliberation, nor of any decision.
> >
> > There is certainly evidence that special accomodations were not allowed.
> > I would certainly agree that they should haave been allowed. That would
> > constitute a reasonable accomodation and thus be more likely to equalize
> > the opportunity. But, that isn't the same as people sitting down to say
> > "let's stick it to this person." That's what "deliberately deny" means.
> >
> > Did they deny equal access? Arguably so, by virtue of not making
> > reasonable and appropriate accomodations. Was that a "deliberate
> > decision to deny?" Bull..
> >
> > Ignorance and lack of consideration? Yes. "Deliberate decision to deny."
> > Hardly.
> >
> > Or, perhaps you're privvy to some smoking memo? Or the meeting agenda
> > where this deliberate decision was reached?
> >
> > So, thaat's one supposed fact in question. You did say "facts," as in
> > the plural. So, what else
> > > >
> > > > "I have not investigated, and do not intend to investigate, the
facts he
> > > >  listed."
> > > >
> > > > Facts? What facts? There were no "facts" in that post, just
allegations.
> > > > Rather outrageous ones, too.
> > >
> > > Regarding:
> > >
> > > > Some will recall that Red Hat recently decided to deliberately deny
> > > > equal access to its training material as offered to those whom
decide to
> > > > take their week-long RHCE training classes.  Oh, well...
> > >
> > > Is this false?  Did they, or did they not, make these inaccessible?
> > >
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> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
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