Installing Linux with Speakup Scheduled at CSUN

Igor Gueths igueths at
Sun Nov 17 10:01:33 EST 2002

Hi Scott. Now that you brought it up, its true that everyone chooses what
works for them. Unfortunately, M$ wants to impose their system on
everyone, which really isn't going to work. Others like me, who like to
see all low-level functionality, and be able to do whatever they want, are
severely impaired by a system like Winblows, which both hides the
underlying workings of the box, and makes someone use their stupid gui no
matter who they are. I'm supposed to interact with a gui when I can do the
same thing much faster and tweek it much more on the command line? I don't
think so!

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> Ah, We're back to this topic again.
> Well folks the truth be told, the adverage person doesn't give a tiny
> tin damn about what os their machine runs, doesn't care to know ram from
> ram, and isn't even interested in fiddling about with the box. THey go
> to the store, purchase what they believe to be the best box for the
> bucks, come home, get out the big poster that tells them where to plug
> the keyboard, mouse, etc. in, and turn it on. What the adverage person
> does care about is how can the accomplish the task and how quickly
> without a great deal of fuss. The same applies to the adverage person
> who owns a car, they just want to drive and get where they are going.
> THey don't care how many cylinders it has, where its got a carb or fuel
> injected etc. I agree if your going to take on the task of learning an
> os, expect to hit bumps along the way and don't bitch, ask questions,
> read, learn, and so forth.
> So, now if you wonder why there are technicians in the world, now you
> know. So, lets not go about beatting others on the head because they
> aren't interested in Linux or say that Linux isn't ready for the
> adverage user. In fact Linux can be used by the adverage user once its
> install. They wouldn't have a clue or care if its windows or Linux as
> long as they can accomplish the task at hand. It holds true that the
> same adverage user probably wouldn't want to install windows either.
> Hell you buy a machine and it comes with the os already install and most
> all applications. Now if you handed someone a LInux box with everything
> on it, I'm sure they would be just as happy. I think the only challenge
> is perhaps installing some new application. There is no generic method
> I'm aware of to install some package you bought from the store.
> COnsider if you were to buy some new word processing package, most LInux
> distros have a basic feel, but different installation methods, I can see
> how this would pose a problem for someone who would have to find a
> package for their distro. Because there is only one windows, its easy to
> purchase software. I think you see my point.
> Ay, lets face it folks, Linux is not for everyone and neither is
> windows, and neither is the Mac os. YOu pick what works best for you. Of
> course thre are tinkers of cars, computers, and so on and that is what
> most of us are. We are interested in the "under the hood" stuff.
> Scott
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