Newbie Lists And more, was; Re: Get Out Of Jail Free!

Gregory Nowak greg at romualt.dhs.org
Wed May 22 12:08:45 EDT 2002


I just want to make one small comment. My understanding is that unix is a family of operating systems, and that GNU/Linux is a member of that family, just like Sunos is a member of that family. Thus, unix and GNU/Linux are not separate operatingsystems, which you seem to be implying in your post.
Greg


On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:14:13AM -0230, Ed Barnes wrote:
> Hi Octavian.
> To answer your question I don't know of any Linux newbie mailing lists 
> specifically geared toward blind people.
> I am a relative beginner with regard to using Linux myself, however; I 
> never really looked to find a newbie list.
> To a point I am sort of the opposite to you with regard to how I learn in 
> that I like reading docs, man pages, and sometimes howtos.
> I ask a few questions now and then and I'm greatful for the answers I've 
> received from many of the more experienced Linux users on this list.
> Note however that I know I didn't say that to use Linux a person must know 
> Unix first though both operating systems have a great deal in common, and 
> unless I drastically miss-understood something over the past few days i 
> don't think anyone else did either.
> Also, in regard to your comment that Microsoft does so well because the 
> people that know Linux dont' want to take the time to help newbies, I'm 
> sorry, I'm very much offended, I'm not offended because I've done a great 
> deal for you but attitudes like yours make other people who arelatively 
> new to Linux look like winers who make excuses and such. 
> Many members of this list have helped you a great deal since you joined it 
> so the credability of a statement such as the one you made regarding 
> veteran Linuxers not wishing to help newbies is zero in my opinion. 
> Further to this thread and my statements about the helpfulness of members 
> of this list may I point that my saved messages folder is 80% messages 
> from this list even though I subscribe to other mailing lists devoted to 
> other topics asside from Linux, this is because I tend to file messages 
> containg command infoand more so I can refer to them later.
> Lastly, you may increase your probability of success if you concentrated 
> more on how things are done in Linux instead of comparing pieces of advice 
> given by users to what you already know, that being Windows, and complaing 
> ing less. Expend some of the energy you use comparing things unnecessarily 
> toward more positive things and more useful tasks like playing around and 
> seeing what happens under Linux.
> As a newbie you probably won't break anything that can't be fixed or 
> anything that other newbies before you or I hasn't broken.
> Folks these are just my opinions and I hope I've not offended anyone in 
> expressing them as that isn't my intent.
> Regards to all, Ed.
> 
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