Newbie Lists And more, was; Re: Get Out Of Jail Free!

Ed Barnes edbarnes at anomaly.2y.net
Wed May 22 01:44:13 EDT 2002


Hi Octavian.
To answer your question I don't know of any Linux newbie mailing lists 
specifically geared toward blind people.
I am a relative beginner with regard to using Linux myself, however; I 
never really looked to find a newbie list.
To a point I am sort of the opposite to you with regard to how I learn in 
that I like reading docs, man pages, and sometimes howtos.
I ask a few questions now and then and I'm greatful for the answers I've 
received from many of the more experienced Linux users on this list.
Note however that I know I didn't say that to use Linux a person must know 
Unix first though both operating systems have a great deal in common, and 
unless I drastically miss-understood something over the past few days i 
don't think anyone else did either.
Also, in regard to your comment that Microsoft does so well because the 
people that know Linux dont' want to take the time to help newbies, I'm 
sorry, I'm very much offended, I'm not offended because I've done a great 
deal for you but attitudes like yours make other people who arelatively 
new to Linux look like winers who make excuses and such. 
Many members of this list have helped you a great deal since you joined it 
so the credability of a statement such as the one you made regarding 
veteran Linuxers not wishing to help newbies is zero in my opinion. 
Further to this thread and my statements about the helpfulness of members 
of this list may I point that my saved messages folder is 80% messages 
from this list even though I subscribe to other mailing lists devoted to 
other topics asside from Linux, this is because I tend to file messages 
containg command infoand more so I can refer to them later.
Lastly, you may increase your probability of success if you concentrated 
more on how things are done in Linux instead of comparing pieces of advice 
given by users to what you already know, that being Windows, and complaing 
ing less. Expend some of the energy you use comparing things unnecessarily 
toward more positive things and more useful tasks like playing around and 
seeing what happens under Linux.
As a newbie you probably won't break anything that can't be fixed or 
anything that other newbies before you or I hasn't broken.
Folks these are just my opinions and I hope I've not offended anyone in 
expressing them as that isn't my intent.
Regards to all, Ed.







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