interesting experiment.

Tue May 21 01:51:21 EDT 2002

Unfortunately, I found that emacspeak is  the only solution for the moment.
I hope that Linux will follow the Windows way, and there will be a better
support for software sinthesizers than for hardware ones, and that it will
appear a graphical interface accessible for the blind.
Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.

This isn't possible, and I don't think your asking for too much at all. If
there were only more programmers to work on modulerizing speakup and working
on tuxtalk ... sigh.
Greg

On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 07:41:02AM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Ok, I don't want to learn Emacspeak at all.
> I would like to be able to use a real screen reader but unfortunately it
is
> not possible without a hardware sinthesizer which is expensive.
> I have one, but it is not supported by a real screen reader.
>
> I would like to have a screen reader that starts at startup, which can be
> used to read the screen in pine, pico, lynx, and the command line.
> Is this possible without a hardware sinthesizer?
> Am I asking too much from the best OS?
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita at home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
>
>
> This is not an important problem. You have more important things
> to worry about than this.
>
> Also, using emacs' terminal mode is probably not the smartest way
> to learn about emacs.
>
> If you're trying to learn emacs, you shouldn't start with that.
> You're trying to run, and you haven't even learned how to crawl
> yet.
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>
> > Of course, because that problem happend me for more times.
> >
> > I think I found a little problem but I am not sure.
> >
> > When it starts, emacspeak  tell me that message that it is functioning
> > normally (BTW. How can I change that message?)  and I don't care about
> that
> > message and I start pressing the normal shortcuts for launching the
> terminal
> > mode before it finishes the message. When I do that, the terminal
doesn't
> > start.
> > If I let emacspeak to finish its message, I can start it.
> >
> > How can I stop the voice? What key should I press if I want to stop the
> > message?
> > I searched in the help file but I couldn't find it.
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita at home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> >
> >
> > Octavian: You need to explain yourself.
> >
> > What is the meaning of "of course" in your message?
> >
> > What's that about?
> >
> > Also, why are you rebooting? That's your hangover from Windows.
> >
> > Get a clue. That's not the way to get out of trouble.
> >
> > Your emacs is probably working just fine, and you can probably
> > get back to your buffer list with c-x c-b
> >
> > Now, instead of whining at the first sign of trouble, why not
> > study how to use the program a bit? Have you read the tutorials?
> > What can you succeed with? Or, did you just come here to say:
> >
> > "of course"
> >
> > to us.
> >
> > I won't accept that. Not from you, not from anyone.
> >
> > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> >
> > > I press the keys for  launching the terminal mode under Emacspeak, I
> type
> > a
> > > simple ls command to test it, I won't hear anything of course, then
the
> > > computer stopped speaking, and I need to reboot it.
> > > IS Emacspeak the problem? Is IBM Via Voice stopping?
> > > I don't know.
> > > Thank you for putting me to learn. <gee>
> > > Do you have a link to a text file with all the command lines used by
> > > emacspeak?
> > > I've tried that help, but I couldn't find how to set the speed of
voice
> > > sinthesizer faster, nor how to read a text at once, not line by line.
> > > I also would like to know how can I skip the text when I read this
way.
> > >
> > > In Windows, I can put the screen reader to read in "say all" mode and
if
> I
> > > press the right shift, it skips a line and continue reading without
> > > stopping.
> > > If I press the left shift, it goes back with a line and continue
reading
> > > without stopping.
> > >
> > > This is a good feature and I am sure it should be in Emacspeak also.
> > > However, I couldn't find it.
> > >
> > > I would also like to know if there is a kind of control panel for
> > emacspeak,
> > > where I can set all the variables, a configuration file, etc.
> > > Emacspeak starts with a text file which is not too big and I should
read
> a
> > > lot of things before finding how to set the sinthesizer faster.
> > > And I don't  have the patience to listen how slowly it speaks.
> > >
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita at home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > >
> > >
> > > No joke. Emacs is easier than Windows.
> > >
> > > Now, Octavian, stop belly aching and go learn how to do
> > > something.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do you mean that using Emacspeak is easier than using Windows?
> > > > Nice joke. Really.
> > > > And ... without a hardware sinthesizer, with that IBM Via Voice that
> > likes
> > > > to crash so often, or other software sinthesizers hard to
understand,
> > ...
> > > > Teddy,
> > > > orasnita at home.ro
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp at eznet.net>
> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Why don't you try Emacspeak and quit yawping!  There *is* a speech
> > > > output system that uses software speech.
> > > >
> > > > Ann P.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Ann K. Parsons
> > > > email:  akp at eznet.net ICQ Number:  33006854
> > > > WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> > > > "All that is gold does not glitter.  Not all those who wander are
> lost."
> > > > JRRT
> > > >
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> >
> > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
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