interesting experiment.

Octavian Rasnita orasnita at home.ro
Mon May 20 01:13:53 EDT 2002


Ok, but in this case, I think you are a specialist in computers or something
like that.
Or are you a mathematician, psychologist, poet?
Or do you think this kind of people use to have more than one computer?
Or do you think they go and set their PC's if they have problems with them?

I doubt.
Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.


At most 2? Well, I've got 5 here, and one of them is a vintage IBM machine.
I used to have a couple more, but I ended up refurbishing them (they were
4/586 machines) with the functioning parts I pulled out of dead machines,
and started giving them away to people I knew who would benefit from having
a pc, but who couldn't afford one.
Greg


On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 05:28:15AM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Most of Windows users don't have a network but only a single computer, or
at
> most 2.
> If there is a network, there is a system administrator.
> I am not a software engineer. I am licenced in Management, and I've worked
> only in Sales and marketing.
> But I want to be able to use an operating system that a lot of people say
> that is the best.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita at home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry at gotss.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
>
>
> The MAC address is required to diagnose certain network related problems
> such as bad switches, faulty dhcp implementations from certain vendors,
> network jabbers, broadcast storms, packet tracing and a host
> of other uses.
> Watching your network for arp trafic with tcpdump can tell you if your
> windows box has come up onto the network and if the NIC is working.
> Knowing which machine you are looking for on a multi-pc network means
> knowing the mac address
> especially if there is an ip address conflict.
> Compound your problems by having a corrupted dhcp lease database under NT
or
> 2 machines
> set to the same ip 1 dhcp 1 not, and you'd like to know which
> machine is where.
> MAC addresses are unique, and many organizations use the MAC address to
> track where
> their computers (or the network cards in said computers) are.
> Tracking a MAC address can tell you which segment on a switch a machine is
> on, and
> on complicated setups you can dump the MAC table to debug 802.1
> bridging problems.
> It is conceivable that on your home network you have personally
> never neded to know the MAC address of your windows box,
> and that is fare enough.
> I have debugged network problems in seconds with knowledge, a few MAC
> addresses
> and a packet sniffer that have baffled others for weeks.
> Maybe I am becoming disalusioned, but it seems so many people these days
> have
> no desire to know how things work, I mean really work.
> If you understand how things work,
> it is far easier to fix problems.
> My underlying knowledge of ethernet makes solving most networking problems
a
> snap.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
> On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:12:20AM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > Ok, why would one need to know their nic's mac address under windows 9x?
> > I've never had to, and I used windblows extensively for a good while.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:49:52AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> > >
>
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