interesting experiment.

[Octavian Rasnita]

Yes, and how I said, Windows is not better, but is absolutely necessary for
some tasks.
I don't think it is a great problem to write a good (or even better and
accessible) program like Cake Walk for Linux, but this would take a lot of
effort, people and money, and the results ... The Linux people like the
command line not the GUI.

Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc at MIT.EDU>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.


Yes, I must second on the music stuff. The only reason I use windows and
Jaws is that it gives me access to cakeWalk, a very powerful (and mostly
accessible) music sequencing and audio editing environment. Writing such a
beast is very difficult, nontrivial, very f*cking hard, and takes many human
years to accomplish.
To be fair, some of this difficulty may have to do with its reliance on
Windows and its very ugly GUI programming (yes, its as ugly to develope
under as it is to use), and some of the complexity may have to do with its
ability to deal with music notation, but its still a nontrivial task to
write such a beast. My feeling is that a console based sequencing and audio
package like cakeWalk won't ever be created, because sighted people want to
use a GUI. When gnome comes on-line for us, we may have more options in this
regard. I've heard of mixers and effects processors which are x-windows
based, but I'm not sure how well they work. I think there is a sequencer or
two as well for the X environment. The question is, are any of these as good
as cakeWalk? CakeWalk is a professional quality product in every way. The
only thing nonprofessional about it is Windows!

There is someone (Frank Carmichael, I believe) who has been working on the
audio piece of this, so maybe he can chime in on this and tell me how *wrong
I am*! <smile>

There is no way to create music the way I do without this program! It sux,
but its unfortunately the case.

                    Rich

----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita at home.ro>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: 18 May, 2002 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.


Are there any games accessible for the blind under Linux, like under
Windows?
Please tell me some web addresses.
Are there any good sound editing programs for Linux, like Sound Forge, Cool
Edit, Gold Wave, etc, and programs for creating MIDI music, like Cake Walk?

Is there a text editor, that has macro features, Regular expressions, the
ability to save in Windows/Mac/Unix format, etc?

... Just a few things that camed to mind.

A lot of things are accessible, but ... harder to learn, harder to configure
and harder to use, if I am not so bright to remember 1000 command line
parameters.

Thank you for the links.
Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.


On Sat, 18 May 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> I just wish Linux were
> a more viable general purpose workstation; I use Windows for that purpose.
>
Hi, Darrell:

Just wondering what you think is missing from Linux' desktop
applications.

In case this sounds loaded, it might be. The underlying question
might be: Is it your knowledge deficit, or is it Linux itself?
For my own experience in this matter, I've found it's my
knowledge deficit almost without exception.




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