Grub was Re: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.

[Thomas Ward]

Cool. I will look that up. I wasn't aware of lilo's password features.

----- Original Message -----
From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Grub was Re: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.


> OK, that's about what I saw last year. I stayed with lilo because lilo
> appears to be more accessible.
>
> For the record, you can also password protect partitions with lilo. Look
> at the lilo man page, and look for:
>
> restricted
> password=
>
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:
>
> > Hi, Janina. Well, as a rule of thumb I tell grub to give me  a long
pause so
> > I know I am at the prompt, and when booting from Linux to Windows I know
> > that grub highlites the last operating system that was last used. If I
am in
> > Windows I know to up arrow to Linux, and wam am in Red Hat.
> > If I want to switch to Windows I restart wait for the Grub prompt and
down
> > arrow to Windows.
> > Lilo I think is a little more accessible, but grub allows the
passwording
> > of partitions which allows some security.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.
> >
> >
> > > Hey, Thomas,
> > >
> > > Since you're supporting grub, may I ask how you deal with multiple
> > > configurations in grub? In other words, how do you know what
configuration
> > > you're going to load? And, how do you know when to indicate the
> > > configuration option you want for any particular boot?
> > >
> > > I ask this because, when I looked at grub a little over a year ago, I
saw
> > > no clear way of providing a sonic prompt such as one can introduce in
lilo
> > > via a couple of Ctrl-G's in /boot/message. Also, it was unclear to me
> > > whether one could alias configurations into a single keystroke as you
can
> > > in lilo.
> > >
> > > Please advise.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, Anna. You have a couple of options. First off you can get the
> > speakup
> > > > enabled rpms of the Red Hat kernel, modules, etc, and install that
over
> > top
> > > > of the existing kernel in your installation.
> > > > Second, choice is to download the lates 2.4.17 kernel tree, patch it
> > with
> > > > speakup, and compile from source.
> > > > As for boot loader it doesn't really matter. Although I suggest
grub.
> > Grub
> > > > is a good boot loader, and I suggest using grub if you have an ext3
> > > > partition.
> > > > One thing is for sure you will want ext3 partitions, because they
are
> > much
> > > > more stable than ext2.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Anna Schneider <annas at drizzle.com>
> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:56 AM
> > > > Subject: Installing Speakup separate from Linux.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, so the place i'm buying my computer from will install a GPL
> > version
> > > > > of Red Hat which I like because they will test it with the CD
Writer
> > and
> > > > > the video and sound cards, and their version includes a driver for
the
> > HP
> > > > > 1200 laser jet which I can have regardless of whether or not I buy
the
> > > > > printer from them.  So I'm going to have to install Speak Up later
on
> > my
> > > > > own.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, if I just want to install Speak Up without a distribution, do
I
> > use
> > > > > the tar.gc file of it and follow the instruction under
installation?
> > This
> > > > > was in the index of various readme and key map files on the
Speakup
> > web
> > > > > page.
> > > > >
> > > > > And when I talk to the people at Pogo Linux, would I want to make
sure
> > > > > that they choose the installation options for their version of Red
Hat
> > > > > that the Speakup how to recommends, such as choosing lilo and the
> > custom
> > > > > installation and text of course and so on.  I've got it all
written
> > down.
> > > > > I'm assuming that this will make less trouble for me later?
> > > > >
> > > > > I will need help installing Speakup if I go this route, correct?
> > > > >
> > > > > And lastly, how do I know which sireal port gets which
designation?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks much.  I'm ordering my computer tomorrow. Very very
excited.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anna
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > >
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> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
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