Mozilla

[David Poehlman]

you are about right as far as I can tell, just throwing msaa at an ap
does not get all of what you need.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc at MIT.EDU>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Mozilla


Well, you need the OS hooks (in this case MSAA), you need the
application to
make use of it (which netscape does from what I'm hearing), you need the
app
to make use of the document object model (which it does), you need jaws
to
be able to reference the DOM (which it only does if the application
vendor
provides a hook or call which a jaws script can make to get the DOM
object
tree), and then you need jaws scripts to pull it all together. Thus, if
freedom Science Fiction and netscape get together a bit then it might
happen. However, if they don't cooperate then I don't think jaws can see
the
DOM and thus can't do much with netscape.

Please set me straight if I'm wrong on this one! Maybe just the act of
supporting MSAA will give the screen reader access to the DOM. Maybe all
that needs to be done is writing the scripts, which isn't a huge deal
since
much can be reused from the Internet Explorer scripts.

                    Rich

----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Mozilla


> Hi. Well what Greg said makes sense. Unless Freedom science fiction
> decided to make their own variation of msaa, which I think is highly
> unlikely.
>
> Explorer has caused a general protection fault in module kernel32.dll.
I'm
sick of Winblows!
> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't jump to any conclusions.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Mozilla
> >
> >
> > Since window-eyes already supports anything with msaa, I think
gw-micro
> > is covered for netscape support if it indeed contains msaa.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 09:51:03AM -0400, Whitley GS11 Cecil H
wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I hesitate to even mention this because I don't want to start
another
> > > battle.  However, I feel that there is a segment of this community
> > that this
> > > effects and who will be interested.  Yesterday in my wanderings (I
was
> > > checking out the latest status of Gnome) I ran across some very
> > interesting
> > > information.  Mozilla currently supports MSAA on the Windows
platform.
> > > Since the VP of development for Freedom Scientific had testified
in
> > April
> > > that Netscape does not support accessability I found it curious to
say
> > the
> > > least that Netscape uses Mozilla's technology in it's latest
browser
> > and
> > > therefore supports both MSAA and DOM.
> > >
> > > Okay, what's my point?  Simply this, I wrote
> > > suggestions at freedomscientific.com and requested that they support
> > Mozilla on
> > > the Windows platform given that the Mozilla developers are
suporting
> > > accessability in their product.  I indicated that I felt their
company
> > > should suport Mozilla at least as well as they suport Internet
> > Explorer
> > > given that it provides more choice for the visually impaired
> > community.  I
> > > know that some of the users on this list would benefit from
experience
> > with
> > > Mozilla on windows so that they are "up to speed" on it once it is
> > available
> > > under Gnome.  So with that said, I would like to request that if
you
> > are a
> > > jaws user (or any other windows screen reader for that matter)
that
> > you let
> > > your voice be heard by your respective vendor.
> > >
> > > I realize that lynx and links won't go away simply because a GUI
is
> > > available, however much of the point of Mozilla is it's ability to
be
> > > imbedded within apps.  Feedback from the community as a whole
would be
> > > benificial to insure that the product is as accessable as possible
for
> > those
> > > who will "have" to use it.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Cecil
> > >
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