Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?

[Terry Cudney]

You wrote:

-=> You say that pressing control alt f1 drops you to a bash prompt.  What
-=> about logging in? Do you have to login through this X environment first?


	No, you don't have to log in to the X session at all. You can go to any one of the virtual consoles that you have enabled on your system by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F# where # is the number of the virtual console that you want.

-=> Could you have a different console come up with a different run level to
-=> give you a command style login and shell?  From what I recall about
-=> initab, you could have a different run level for each console (at least
-=> under slackware).  I think the init/inittab stuff is generic - non
-=> specific to distributions, right?


	At any given time your machine is running at a particular run level. You cannot have several consoles simultaneously running at different run-levels (unless they are on different machines).


-=> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:
-=>
-=> > Lol! That is funny. Actually, Red Hat 7.2 by default loads the gui, and when
-=> > you log in you are dropped on a Gnome 1.4 desktop which is nice. Since my
-=> > family likes the gui on start up I leave it that way.
-=> > However, a alt+control+f1 sets me right, and gets me into a bash prompt to
-=> > get some work done.
-=> > So it is no big deal if Linux os's such as Mandrake 8.1 or Red Hat 7.2 it is
-=> > set to runlevel 5. One key stroke and you are in bash.
-=> > I think you are right though. Linux is at a critical point. Big companies
-=> > like IBM are taking Linux serious, and many of home users are peed off at
-=> > they way MS puts in their security for XP.
-=> > Now is the time to start proving the os for what it can do. However,
-=> > Mandrake and Red Hat are good distributions for the average home user. After
-=> > most of them can't even reinstall MS Windows which is easy. How could they
-=> > even think about Slackware which requires a little knolege of system files
-=> > etc.
-=> >
-=> >
-=> > ----- Original Message -----
-=> > From: Adam Myrow <myrow at eskimo.com>
-=> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
-=> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 3:24 PM
-=> > Subject: Re: Will Redhat Become a Division of AOL Time-Warner?
-=> >
-=> >
-=> > > I can hear the advertising now.  "Redhat, so easy, no wonder it's number
-=> > > 1!"  They'll be showing a grandmother on TV saying "my grandson sends me
-=> > > email every day and I can actually reply with AOL for Redhat."
-=> > >
-=> > > In all seriousness, I don't think they could take out the command line.
-=> > > After all, that's how Linux works.  They could make it start up in X, and
-=> > > people wouldn't use the command line, but it's still in there.  Even
-=> > > Windows XP has a command line if I understand it correctly.  I just think
-=> > > it's funny that AOL is interested in Linux.
-=> > >
-=> > > What this shows is what I've believed for a long time.  Linux is at a
-=> > > critical point in its history.  It's powerful enough to run serious
-=> > > servers, but it's starting to grab the attention of the public because
-=> > > they are finally starting to get tired of Windows crashing and excepting
-=> > > that this is not normal behavior for a computer.  So, they are looking to
-=> > > Linux because it has a reputation for stability, but they see that it
-=> > > isn't Windows at all.  They want Windows without the bugs, and the Linux
-=> > > users want something other than Windows.  So, we have word processors
-=> > > under the GUI, ICQ cloans and such under the GUI, and development tools
-=> > > running at the command line.  Redhat is clearly trying to attract home
-=> > > users with its Plug 'N Play type install while Slackware is staying with a
-=> > > "do it yourself" approach and other distributions seem to be somewhere in
-=> > > the middle.  Linux is going to go one way or the other.  It's really up to
-=> > > the users to decide which way it goes.
-=> > >
-=> > >
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		--terry

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