Problems with pdf files.

[Thomas Ward]

Well, I have a suggestion. why don't we start getting Speakup and Emacsspeak
users together, and start writingAdobe systems. Basically, tell them to make
an accessible reader for Linux or stop advertising that pdf files are
accessible when they are not.
We have strength in numbers, and the only way to get anything done is to get
the root of the problem. Which is openly
scream section 508. while Adobe Acrobat for Windows is accessible the  Linux
version is not. Nor do they have plans in that direction.


----- Original Message -----
From: Amanda Lee <amanda at shellworld.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files.


> I bet we could beat them on the technicality that as persons who are blind
> seeking to enable a document to be accessible and in an alternate format
> which we otherwise could not read, is this side of the law but provided
one
> uses the information for his or her own use and does not post it where it
> can be accessed by others, then doubt there's much that would hold-up in a
> court of law.
>
> So if I have a colleague print the document and I then scan it with an OCR
> program, is that illegal?  Yet I technically would have displayed the
> document in another form.  So I also suppose it is illegal to magnify the
> font on the screen so that a low vision person can read it?  Godf forbid!
> don't change the colors on your screen such that it is easier for someone
> who needs different color contrast.  So let's a bunch ofblind folks get
> together and write a .pdf cracker! I'm ready to go to jail in protest!
> hahahahaha!  it's tempting because this is really against the ADA and
> Section 508 and against other laws.  I feel sorry for the poor slob who
went
> to jail.  I'd like to see where this case is documented.
>
> Amanda Lee
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Wood" <cpt.kirk at 1tree.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems with pdf files.
>
>
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > ....  Key here is
> > > getting around copy-protection. I really fault Adobe systems on this
> one.
> > > Surely, there's gotta be a way to expose PDF text to the reader with
or
> > > with out a password ....
> >
> > There is a way. And the lead programmer recently was realeased after
> > spending five months in jail without a trial. He was allowed to return
to
> > Rusia. If you want to find the program he wrote it is out there. But
> > before some dumb ass asks, no I won't point you to it. The whole DeCSS
> > trial in the states is over pointing people to a program to circumvent
> > such things. I won't be lucky enough to have the EFF help with my
defense
> > and I know nobody here will send enough money to make up for my lost
wages
> > alone.
> >
> > =======
> > Kirk Wood
> > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net
> >
> > Nowlan's Theory:
> >         He who hesitates is not only lost, but several miles from
> >         the next freeway exit.
> >
> >
> >
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