anti-word

[Shaun Oliver]

ok for starters,
yes it'll take finance and some smart people who know some code to maybe
rewrite the standard.
it'll also take alot of voices to at least get ourselves and others like
us heard.
Let me be honest with you all. This is not going to happen just like that
it'll take alot of balls to do it but it can be done.
However, if some of you feel so strongly about not using word or whatever,
just don't use it. I don't see what all the fuss is about.
it's farely simple to me. teach them to adapt it for you or bloody well do
it yourself.
and if you have to occasionally use windows to edit a ms word doc and
retain all the formatting attributes etc, then so be it.
don't be on here bitching about it and what all else, do something about
it!!
I don't care what, just let's us all get off our collective arses and stop
whining! This is nonproductive and isn't helping anyone.
Let's just for now get on with it and when the opportunity arrises, make
the appropriate noise.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Shaun, how do we change the defacto file format then from ms-word to something else? Start a "drop ms-word" campign maybe? Of course, such a thing would require finances as well.
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2002 at 09:00:12PM +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes and if a word document is sent to you for your input and editing, I'm
> > > > sure the original party would expect the thing to come back in Word format
> > > > along with the built-in formatting, styles and such.  Some of this whole
> > > > anti Word sounds arogant to me.
> > >
> > >
> > > I rather think it arrogant to presume everyone wants and reads Word. I
> > > regard it as arrogant to presume we all pay tribute to Microsoft. I
> > > further regard it arrogant to treat a proprietary, non-consensus, file
> > > format as some kind of standard.
> > >
> > Well, like it or not, this is the standard we need to either abide by or
> > change. Right at the moment all I'm seeing is a whole lot of bitching
> > about ms word and such.
> > to revisit Kirk w's post a few days ago, we need to take into account that
> > microsoft word is the enforced some would say prefered word processor that
> > is widely used in the workplace today.
> > We need to be mindful of this when we decide not to give a fuck about
> > formatting and presentation.
> > I've had it pointed out to me in no uncertain terms that this is the way
> > things are.
> > so let's just stop fucking around with bitching and either do something
> > about it or fucking well live with it!!
> > I don't like microsoft any more than alot of you do but like it or not,
> > it's here and we have to deal with it.
> > if microsoft on the other hand were to get things right in the first place
> > and not be so kind as to stoop to exploitative and scare tactics etc, we
> > probably wouldn't even be having this discussion.
> > I'm sorry for my use of colourful metafores but that's just how ai see the
> > whole thing.
> >  >
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-- 
Shaun Oliver

Marriage is a three ring circus:
engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering.
                -- Roger Price

Email: shauno at goanna.net.au
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