speakup howto, was: Re: suggestions for Speakup

[Saqib Shaikh]

I'm not allowed to make everything public but I guess we'll only get a bad
name if we stay quiet.  It is *totally separate* from my previous docs - IBM
were doing it and why reinvent the heel so they just turned the wheel into a
motor-driven wheel with a tyre.

Saqib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: speakup howto, was: Re: suggestions for Speakup


> Gregory:
>
> I don't know. Theyh haven't consulted me on their plans. Why don't we just
> ask them to tell us all here on the list?
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > So will this new joint howto be a rewriting and incorperation of Saqib's
original howto, or a totally new document?
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 01:36:53PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Excellent questions, Gregory. IBM's Accessibility on Linux page, which
is
> > > at:
> > >
> > >
> > >
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux/projects/access/
> > >
> > > says "The IBM Linux Accessibility Team contributes to the open-source
> > > community's accessibility efforts in order to help
> > >    accelerate Linux."
> > >
> > > This is, of course, an incomplete statement which makes no sense on
its
> > > own. What do they mean "accelerate linux?" I suspect they don't mean
"make
> > > it run faster," for example. I'm sure there's a word missing in that
> > > sentence, but I diagress ...
> > >
> > > This page goes on to say:
> > >
> > > "November 15, 2001
> > >    Saqib Shaikh, author of several Speakup documents, agreed to
coauthor
> > > new Speakup HOWTO with Jennifer Jobst."
> > >
> > > Since I see no link, I assume they're not offering up any drafts just
yet,
> > > but I certainly expect they'll do so before finalizing their document.
I
> > > know Jennifer posted a draft of her emacspeak documentation on the
> > > emacspeak list, so I suspect she's lurking here, and will do the same
for
> > > us. And, of course, Saqib is active on this list, so perhaps he'd like
to
> > > share about this? I do recall he offered us his own, quite excellent
> > > speakup HOWTO last spring. Are there other speakup docs you've
written,
> > > Saqib? That one is the only one I'm aware of to date.
> > >
> > > Now, let me speculate on the real reason IBM is up to all those
wonderful
> > > efforts they proudly list at the url provided above:
> > >
> > > I believe IBM wants to make money selling computers to the U.S.
> > > Government. I believe they want the option to sell systems without
> > > Microsoft applications, and Microsoft operating systems. Recent news
> > > stories have explained about contracts from IBM to Redhat for ports of
the
> > > Redhat distribution of open source linux for a range of IBM servers,
and
> > > even IBM's S390 mainframe.
> > >
> > > To me, these facts point to the intention to be Sec.508 compliant in
> > > systems proposals for U.S. Federal procurments. And, I say, "Amen, and
> > > more power to them."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > IBM is authoring a howto about speakup? Where can I find a copy to
look at?
> > > > And uhhhm, why are they doing it?
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 11:28:21AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Stick to the straight and
> > > > > > narrow and make sure each feature under consideration really
> > > > > > belongs in a screen reader. Examples: the cut and paste feature
> > > > > > really did belong; the reinitialization feature really does not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > Strongly agree, but with a suggested twist.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reinitialization feature should go into the HOWTO that Saqib
and IBM
> > > > > are authoring about speakup. It's a valuable tip that even novice
users
> > > > > can set up for themselves, and learn a little linux in the
process. And,
> > > > > they'll end up with a feature they are likely to find useful, and
that
> > > > > they wouldn't come upon very quickly on their own.
> > > > >
> > > > > Saqib, Jennifer, are you listening??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > Janina Sajka, Director
> > > Technology Research and Development
> > > Governmental Relations Group
> > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > >
> > > Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > >
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> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
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