New to LINUX
Jason Symes
jsymes at netins.net
Tue Jan 1 16:57:26 EST 2002
Its not just ms either, but the big computer companies. I had to beat my
head against a brick wall, waste a month of my summer, send back two
systems that weren't configured right, and argue with my sale's reps
supervisor before Gateway gave me everything I wanted and needed, and they
still gave me the wrong sound card. Their tech support people are idiots
too, and ms' tech support makes you pay for a simple question. I can't wait
until I get rh downloaded and installed!
At 09:40 PM 1/1/02 +1100, you wrote:
>thomas,
>even though more and more people are trying out linux, it does not take
>away from the fact that mr average neither knows or cares about how his
>system operates.
>Until mr average starts to give a damn about the inner workings of his
>computer and the various problems and solutions to said problems,
>microsoft will always have the upper hand.
>it appears to me that an even greater number of windows users still
>don't want to know or give a damn how things work.
>I meet with this kind of opposition everyday. the other people that use
>computers that I closely associate with, namely my partner and her
>father,
>both point blank refuse to touch linux with a barge pole.
>My partner's father is 1 of those users that knows enough about his
>machine to get out of trouble. but doesn't care for the waw linux refers
>to ide or skuzzy devices nore the way everything needs to be setup by
>hand.
>Make no mistake about it, x isn't totally point and click and hope for
>the best.
>I feel it's better to get in there and swear and fart around a bit until
>you get the result you desire.
>On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote:
>
>> Agreed. It is the same way about Win modems. They all could be supported if
>> the hhardware manufacturers got their head out of the sand and see more and
>> more people are trying out Linux.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Janina Sajka <janina at afb.net>
>> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: New to LINUX
>>
>>
>> > Stupidity for sure. Since there's absolutely nothing for them to lose,
>> > this is the only word for it.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Geoff Shang wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi:
>> > >
>> > > Let me emphasize this point about the trippletalk. It cannot be used
>> with
>> > > speakup. And unless and until the trippletalk folks decide to be more
>> > > forth-coming with specs for their products (i.e. they stop
iinsisting on
>> a
>> > > non-disclosure agreement), the trippletalk will remain unsupported. Of
>> > > course, this is stupidity on the part of a hardware manufacturer as
>> wider
>> > > support means greater product sales, but a number of hardware
>> manufacturers
>> > > just don't seem to get it.
>> > >
>> > > Geoff.
>> > >
>> > >
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