Partitioning -- was Re: choosing a distro and version

Janina Sajka janina at afb.net
Mon Feb 25 10:26:37 EST 2002 

Well, this is good, Ed. The best part is the realization  that you will 
reinstall in the near future. In fact, you may find that you do a fair 
amount of installing before you develop your own "style" as it were.

The point is not that you should have /var and /tmp. Of course you should, 
and will have them. The question is only whether creating these two file 
systems as separate partitions makes any sense or not. In other words, if 
you don't specify them as separate partitions, the installer will zsimply 
create those directories in /.

Ditto for /usr and /home, by the bye.

 On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes 
wrote:

> Janina, just one thing to add to your suggestion of dumping the /tmp and
> /var partitions.
> I was of the understanding that files relating to dns services resided
> somewhere under /var and I did want to have a dns service running so I could
> access my other machines on my little hobby network here at home from the
> internet.
> Also, I don't imagine that those two small hard drives will be residing in
> my Linux computer for ever as the only game in town so to speak, I am
> planning to buy a 20 or a 40 for my main system which is a Windows box,
> remove the 12 gb from the Windows box of course, and stick it in the Linux
> box so itwould then have three.
> As the edition of a 12 gb would change the complection of the system in a
> radical sense I undoubtedly would flatten the two smaller hard drives and
> re-install everything to fully take advantage of the fact that I would have
> a great deal more storage space.
> I'd imagine my Linux system with only two hard drives in it will only be up
> for a couple of weeks before I have bought the new drive, however; I figure
> that what I have is decent to learn from in the beginning and I'd guess
> whatever software I could fit in a 1 gb /usr partition would be enough to
> occupy my thirst to learn Linux until I add the larger drive.
> Thanks for sending the extra info and good luck with the new software you
> were playing with.
> Ed Barnes
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Partitioning -- was Re: choosing a distro and version
> 
> 
> Yes, they were missing, sorry about that. Playing around with unfamiliar
> software ...
> 
> Let me try this again ...
> 
> Since you're only using this linux computer for yourself, and since your
> hard drives are relatively small as these things are thought of today, I'd
> advise dumping the /var and /tmp partitions. The 400 mB you specified for
> / is sufficient for / and /var and /tmp most probably. If anything on /var
> gets too large, which is unlikely, you can always move it to /home and
> create a symbolic link in /var--so you are not boxing yourself in by doing
> this.
> 
> I guess that if it were me, I'd want a bit more than 1 gB for /usr because
> I'd expect to play around with software. On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi janina, I think your editional comments you referred too are missing,
> or
> > at least I am unable to find them. Thanks. Ed
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 3:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Partitioning -- was Re: choosing a distro and version
> >
> >
> > Hi, Ed:
> >
> > This looks much better to me. A couple of comments sill, however:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed Barnes writes:
> > > Janina and list.
> > > I am learning more and more from this list as I write to it and read the
> > > messages of others and I should add that I am thoroughally enjoying
> > > participating.
> > > Guess the fact that I am a bit of a computer nird might have something
> to
> > do
> > > with it in a sense because I spend hours and hours fooling around at
> > > computer stuff outside of what school requires just because I enjoy it
> as
> > a
> > > hobby.
> > > Nevertheless, yes Janina I did forget the ned for a /usr partition.
> > > Regarding putting the swap partition on /dev/hda1, I found it a little
> odd
> > > that you were commenting on this as I couldn't remember writing that in
> > the
> > > original message.
> > >      I actually didn't or didn't intend to write it that way but I've
> > looked
> > > at the message that you would have received late last night and that is
> > what
> > > you saw when you read the message so it makes some sense now.
> > >  I have a touchpad on my notebook which I've not yet disabled and
> > sometimes
> > > if my palm hits it as I type and I don't realize it my messages end up
> as
> > a
> > > bit of a jumble and things are miss-aligned.
> > > The pointer that you use a / partition of 256 mb approx and that I could
> > get
> > > away with 400 mb or so is invaluable.
> > > This drastically changes things, but it is change for the better.
> > > After reading your note I am wondering if a partition scheme such as the
> > > following would be more appropriate? Once again I'm planning on
> installing
> > > the modified Red Hat 7.2 on a Pentium II 233 mhz w 64 mb of ram. Any and
> > all
> > > thoughts welcome folks.
> > > /dev/hda is a 2 gb hd
> > > /dev/hda1
> > > / partition 400 mb
> > > /dev/hda2
> > > /usr partition 1 gb (I don't plan on installing anything from x)
> > > /dev/hda3
> > > /var 600 mb (very limitted mail and web and dns server capability)
> > > /dev/hdb is a 1.6 gb hard disk
> > > /dev/hdb1
> > > swap partition of size 200 mb
> > > /dev/hdb2
> > > /tmp 400 mb
> > > /dev/hdb3
> > > /home remaining space on hard disk
> > > Many thanks to all in advance.
> > > Ed Barnes
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't know about the wisdom of putting swap in hda1. Sounds unusual to
> > > me, put I don't know that there's actually anything wrong with that. I
> > > just have never seen that.
> > >
> > > Also, it's not your /root -- but your / partition which is the root. 1.5
> > > gB is undoubtedly large--try 500 mB or even less. I get away with about
> > > 256 mB these days. Essentially, make this bigger if it includes /var,
> and
> > > less if /var is a separate partition, and less if /var will have
> > > relatively little to do--no ftp, no web, only your mail, etc.
> > >
> > > Your note does not speak of /usr. That is very important, and will take
> at
> > > least 1 gB if you install nothing from X, and about 3.5 gB if you
> install
> > > everything in the RH 7.2 distribution.
> > >
> > > My advice is to let diskdruid figure out where to put things. It's good
> at
> > > that. Just specify the sizes and mount points. The term "Mount points,"
> by
> > > the way,  is linux speak for things like /, and /usr, and /home, etc.
> > >
> > >
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

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