choosing a distro and version

Sat Feb 23 19:00:13 EST 2002

I use the ftp client that is in ie 5.5.  The only time it got me really
pissed was when it crapped out when I downloaded debian for a friend.  Why
he wanted debian, I don't know.
Also cute ftp crashes my windows me box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version


> Hi janina, I eventually successfully downloaded the images with no
problems,
> the main reason I don't usually use programs which support download
> resumption is because I am now on cable and if I am downloading isoes and
> such I usually set them to start before I go to bed here at home and if it
> craps out it's no big deal, I just re-start it when I leave for school in
> the mornings.
> I also don't like Cute FTP, it's a question of personal preference in this
> case, and it was the only client I bothered to familiarize myself with
when
> it comes to Windows-based anything in the ftp client arena.
> I usually use ftp from the Windows DOS-box, the only thing I find
> challenging, and I would guess others probably find this to be so
> irregardless what command line utility they are using is remembering long
> file names because they are becoming more and more common.
> I downloaded Ncftp but haven't tested it out.
>
> Thanks Janina and have a good week-end.
> Ed Barnes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version
>
>
> Two points:
>
> 1.) You should be dlwonloading from linux-speakup.org, and nowhere
> else. Any other address you may have been given is now old news. Though
> well-meaning people will still give out other addresses, this is now the
> one to use, and the one that will stay for the forseeable future.
>
> Using http, goto:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/images/
>
> Or, use anonymous ftp at ftp.linux-speakup.org and cd to
> pub/speakup/disks/redhat/images.
>
> 2.) If at all possible, use some kind of download software that
> supports resuming an interrupted download. As you're discovering, this can
> be an invaluable feature. ncftp for windows is one such client:
>
> ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/binaries/ncftp-3.1.2-win32.exe
>
> There are others, such as CuteFTP at:
>
> http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes wrote:
>
> > Hi Thomas, I have all of the above, fast network connection, fast cdrw
> > drive, etc, however; I discovered the red hat 7.2 cd images including
> > speakup in the red hat site at linux-speakup and both times I tried
> > downloading disk 1 of the i386 iso images both transfers died at about
the
> > 60 mb point, anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened.
> > I didn't receive any errors on screen.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version
> >
> >
> > Hi, Ed. Well, I would suggest Red Hat 7.2 myself. If you have access to
a
> > high speed internet connection, and a cdrom burner there is a version of
> Red
> > Hat 7.2 on the Linux Speakup site that has Speakup already built in. It
> has
> > boot disks to help you with a self voicing install, etc.
> > Red Hat was my first distribution, and still is my favorite
distribution.
> > Fpor newbies it has quite a lot to offer. The sound configuration tools,
> > kudzu hardware maniger, and other configuration tools to help you get it
> > going.
> >
> > Your partitioning sounds good. It would be a vary good idea to put /home
> on
> > /dev/hdb.  I will leave it up to others to give specifics on
partitioning
> > they use.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ed Barnes <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> > To: linux speakup listserve <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:22 AM
> > Subject: choosing a distro and version
> >
> >
> > > Hi again folks, hope nobody is sick of hearing from me yet, if so, I'm
> > > sorry.
> > > nevertheless, I was looking at the speakup web site, in particular
> > available
> > > information on Debian and Red Hat Linux distroes.
> > > I am debating choosing to setup either a Debian or a Red Hat system as
> my
> > > first Linux system
> > > I have spoken with some Linux users locally and the general consensus
> from
> > > those who have used both distroes is that for a first-timer Red Hat
> might
> > be
> > > an easier setup and that after I have successfully conquered setting
up
> a
> > > Red Hat box I would have enough skill to conquer setup of Debian
and/or
> > > Slackware as desired.
> > > Any thoughts?
> > > The system which I was planning to use and dedicate to setting up
Linux
> as
> > > its only operating system is a Pentium II 233 MHZ w 64 mb of ram and
two
> > > HDs, it has a sound blaster pro sound card, and it will have a Symbios
> > Logic
> > > pci video adapter or an Sys chip set based AGP though I am leaning
> toward
> > > using the AGP so as to be able to use the extra pci slot for something
> > more
> > > practical like one of the nics.
> > > I know that I should create a min of three partitions, /home, /root,
and
> a
> > > swap partition.
> > > I have rough ideas of how big I want these partitions to be based on
> what
> > I
> > > wish to do with the server from a functional point of view.
> > > The two HDs are 1.6 gb and 2 gb in size respectively.
> > > From a point of view of incorporating some level of fault tolerance in
> the
> > > system I was thinking the root partition and the swap partition should
> go
> > on
> > > /dev/hda and the home partition should go on /dev/hdb.
> > >         This would make system backup more convenient as I would only
> have
> > > to backup the /dev/hdb drive to save user data.
> > > In the event that I do anything to cause the kernel to blow up I could
> > > simply flatten /dev/hda and re-install it and re-create the user
> accounts
> > > whose data is still stored on /dev/hdb and or my backups.
> > >   I was figuring that I would optimize hd space usage by using the 2
gb
> > > drive as /dev/hda and use the 1.6 gb as /dev/hdb as I don't estimate
> that
> > my
> > > system would have any more than 2 too 5 users, root, an user account,
> for
> > > myself, and one too three accounts that I might create to facilitate
my
> > own
> > > fooling around and attempting to learn more about Linux aside from the
> > > accounts which some Linux services, processes create after they are
> > compiled
> > > into the kernel and started.
> > > I was also thinking of putting a min of two nics into the system so it
> > could
> > > be used to store a dynamic routing table for dns and create an ip
subnet
> > > mask so though I am paying for only one ip through my cable internet
> > service
> > > provider all the machines I have at home could both access the
internet
> > and
> > > be accessed from the internet by me.
> > > I know that steps to create an ip subnet mask and setup dns are well
> > > documented at linuxdoc.org and I enjoy reading tech docs as required
so
> I
> > > won't bor you guys with questions that have already been answered
> > elsewhere.
> > > I have read the readme files pertaining to speakup when it is
installed
> > with
> > > both Red Hat 7 and 7.2 respectively and I already have copies of both
> > > versions gotten directly from a Red Hat mirror.
> > > Due to the fact that easy-to-use boot disk images are available for
7.0
> > and
> > > I don't need to modify any software which I already have other than
> > > downloading the appropriate boot image and using rawrite to copy it to
> > > floppy it seems that this would be the best distro to choose in my
case.
> > > In reading the speakup-related readme for Red Hat 7.2 it seems that I
> > would
> > > have to radically alter the CDs I already have to make it work with
> > speakup
> > > and I don't really want the extra work at the moment.
> > > Lastly, for synths I have two Accents, a pc and an sa, a transport,
and
> a
> > > BNS.
> > > From the collective experience of others, is there one which is easier
> to
> > > get talking or which works better than any of the others given the
ones
> I
> > > have available to me or is it just a question of me choosing the one I
> > like
> > > to listen to the most and choosing to use it over any of the others.
> > >
> > > In closing, thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any thoughts on what
I've
> > > written and guidance as to whether I am hitting a home run or if I am
> very
> > > much out in left field so to speak.
> > > Any and all opinions welcome either sent to the listserve or to me
> > directly
> > > using either ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or
ebarnes at superweb.ca.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
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