So much Windows Mailer crap on this list...

[David Poehlman]

how should a mailer be set up for a "blind" list?  we need to define
that before we can move forward.  I may be on a blind list that is for
windows stuff and everybody uses a windows mailer and it's all ok.  I do
understand and agree with a lot of what you say here though.  I manually
set up every mailer i install or use.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: So much Windows Mailer crap on this list...


Perhaps, it would be a good idea for someone using outlook (I haven't
used it for over a year now), to write a specific document detailing
which radio buttons and so on should be checked or unchecked to set
outlook up properly. It is true that this could be figured out, but
there are some people out there that just won't take the time to find
out how to configure outlook properly for blind lists. What's even worse
is that some people don't even know how to find out how to configure
outlook. They let their isps set things up for them with automated
software, and they think that's it.
Greg


On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:41:00PM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote:
> Greg:
> Maybe they can't aford a modem, but they sure can adjust settings to
reduce
> crap in their out-going mail, and if they don't know how, then find
someone
> who can help get through the settings and change it.  The idea, that
an
> empty message from a standard windows email client contains about 2K
of
> nothing is just stupid and a waste...
>
> Brian Borowski
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> > Fortunately, this doesn't appply to me anymore since I got
broadband. But, you know, hardware modems are not exactly cheap. Yes,
there are some gnu/linux drivers for windows modems, but not everyone
has a supported modem. So, if you'd like people on this list to be using
pine, mutt, ETC. for their mail, take into consideration the fact that
not everyone here can aford a new modem, or an expensive broadband
connection.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote:
> > > I guess this has been discussed bofore, but I can't help doing it
again.
> > > Why do so many people use outlook and other Windows utilities to
post to
> > > this list?  It's understandable if you're a new user, but doing it
for a
> > > year or two, makes me wonder; if you're a Windows user and never
want to
> > > use linux to do your stuff; get off the list, and stop polluting
it with
> > > crap.  If you're a  windows user, and insist on posting
(especially for
> > > some of those high-volume posters), then change your settings so
that we
> > > don't have to se a couple of Kbytes of header, and shut off the
damn html
> > > repeat of your message that shows up at the end.  It may come as a
big
> > > surprise to some people, but when us people who use pine and other
mail
> > > readers have to go through hundreds of messages; we don't want to
see
> > > (hear) all that garbage; it's a nuisance, and it slows us down
terribly,
> > > just trying to get through the list.
> > >
> > > Also, I'm in complete agreement with the complaints about
including
> > > messages including messages, including messages within eachother
until
> > > things get huge; it's a waste of bandwidth, and time.  I also
notice, that
> > > some users seem to post multiple copies of their messages; please,
have
> > > pity on us who read our mail?  While I'm complaining:
> > > Why do people include 50 or 100 lines of others messages, and then
put
> > > their one line comment about it right at the end of all that
stuff?  My
> > > advice, is that if you're going to include all that stuff, and
have five or
> > > ten words to say about; why not put your comment at the top, and
save us
> > > all that reading through stuff we've probably already seen before
so many
> > > times?
> > >
> > > Brian Borowski
> > >
> > >
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