FW: software speech for speakup

[Scott Howell]

Personally I think folks had just best keep cool heads here. An idea is an
idea and it would seem there's little reason to turn this discussion into
a flame war. Think before you hit send is all I'll say on the matter.



On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> Steven. That was uncalled for.
> If you have read on, you would see that Kirk has some interesting things
> to say. And by the way, I never saw any instances of his shooting ideas
> down. just applying a realistic viewpoint to the whole suggestion. This is
> the beauty of this list. Everyone posts a suggestion or a question and the
> rest if they can, do their level best to either help out or refer you on
> to someone or somewhere where there's information relevant to your
> situation.
> Please let's drop the bitchyness and leave insults out of it? I see enough
> of that crap on irc.
> 
> 
> Shaun..
> "Has anyone ever tasted an "END"? Are they really bitter?"
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> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:
> 
> > There appears to be a problem with my out going mail, and the reply to the
> > attached message did not make to the list.  So I have chosen to resend this
> > message to the list for all to see.
> > 
> > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --+
> > 
> > Kirk, your arrogance is totally uncalled for.  I was just expressing what
> > would be nice to have knowing what current limitations are.  Perhaps you
> > should come down from your lofty perch, and join the rest of us.  After all,
> > it is nice to have ideas that sometimes make the difference, and it is
> > people like yourself who think that there wy85 don't stink, and think they
> > know everything that, that make people think twice before sharing them with
> > the group.
> > 
> > I suggest to you, that if you are all knowing and such a fantastic
> > programmer, that you tackle the problem for all of us, instead of shooting
> > our ideas down.
> > 
> > Maybe, just maybe, I have just called your bluff, and you are not that all
> > knowing demi-god that you want us all to believe that you are!
> > 
> > So, in the immortal words of Thumper, "If you can't say something nice, then
> > don't say anything at all!"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
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> > E-MAIL ADDRESS:  sdawes at gov.calgary.ab.ca
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk at 1tree.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:08 PM
> > To: Stephen Dawes
> > Subject: RE: software speech for speakup
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 16 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:
> > > When it happens, I will be right there to test it out.  However, I don't
> > > want to loose the current level of speech during boot time.  I would think
> > > that there must be a way to launch the sound as part of the kernel boot
> > > process so that a module could be launched to provide soft speech.
> > 
> > Well, I thought we weren't considering speech at start of boot. There is a
> > way Stephen. Go learn to program and re-write the entire kernel from
> > scratch. That is the only way. If you know much about computers this makes
> > sense. The sound card can not possibly be used until such time as a driver
> > is loaded.
> > 
> > Now with that limitation in mind, I don't see how you can ask for anything
> > more then speech when sound becomes available. This is relatively late in
> > the boot process for good reason. The first is that you really should
> > initialize the hardware used to get to the card first. Also, keep in mind
> > that sound is not considered a critical piece of the equation by the vast
> > majority of users.
> > 
> > Soft speech at start of boot will never happen. Even if you got every
> > blind person in the world to ask for this feature, it wouldn't create
> > enough demand for the project. It is best to not ask for the undoable.
> > 
> > =======
> > Kirk Wood
> > Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net
> > 
> > Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
> > 
> > 
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