FW: software speech for speakup

[Shaun Oliver]

Steven. That was uncalled for.
If you have read on, you would see that Kirk has some interesting things
to say. And by the way, I never saw any instances of his shooting ideas
down. just applying a realistic viewpoint to the whole suggestion. This is
the beauty of this list. Everyone posts a suggestion or a question and the
rest if they can, do their level best to either help out or refer you on
to someone or somewhere where there's information relevant to your
situation.
Please let's drop the bitchyness and leave insults out of it? I see enough
of that crap on irc.


Shaun..
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On Thu, 17 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:

> There appears to be a problem with my out going mail, and the reply to the
> attached message did not make to the list.  So I have chosen to resend this
> message to the list for all to see.
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> Kirk, your arrogance is totally uncalled for.  I was just expressing what
> would be nice to have knowing what current limitations are.  Perhaps you
> should come down from your lofty perch, and join the rest of us.  After all,
> it is nice to have ideas that sometimes make the difference, and it is
> people like yourself who think that there wy85 don't stink, and think they
> know everything that, that make people think twice before sharing them with
> the group.
> 
> I suggest to you, that if you are all knowing and such a fantastic
> programmer, that you tackle the problem for all of us, instead of shooting
> our ideas down.
> 
> Maybe, just maybe, I have just called your bluff, and you are not that all
> knowing demi-god that you want us all to believe that you are!
> 
> So, in the immortal words of Thumper, "If you can't say something nice, then
> don't say anything at all!"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Stephen Dawes B.A. B.Sc.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk Wood [mailto:cpt.kirk at 1tree.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:08 PM
> To: Stephen Dawes
> Subject: RE: software speech for speakup
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 May 2001, Stephen Dawes wrote:
> > When it happens, I will be right there to test it out.  However, I don't
> > want to loose the current level of speech during boot time.  I would think
> > that there must be a way to launch the sound as part of the kernel boot
> > process so that a module could be launched to provide soft speech.
> 
> Well, I thought we weren't considering speech at start of boot. There is a
> way Stephen. Go learn to program and re-write the entire kernel from
> scratch. That is the only way. If you know much about computers this makes
> sense. The sound card can not possibly be used until such time as a driver
> is loaded.
> 
> Now with that limitation in mind, I don't see how you can ask for anything
> more then speech when sound becomes available. This is relatively late in
> the boot process for good reason. The first is that you really should
> initialize the hardware used to get to the card first. Also, keep in mind
> that sound is not considered a critical piece of the equation by the vast
> majority of users.
> 
> Soft speech at start of boot will never happen. Even if you got every
> blind person in the world to ask for this feature, it wouldn't create
> enough demand for the project. It is best to not ask for the undoable.
> 
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> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk at 1tree.net
> 
> Nothing is hard if you know the answer or are used to doing it.
> 
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