speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0

Thomas Ward tward at bright.net
Mon Dec 31 16:18:36 EST 2001

Nope. X won't hold anyones hands. You have to learn Linux from the ground
You should know both the shell and x to really get a feel for the os and
it's abilities. For us at this point we make do with the shell, but the day
will come when we can use x for word processing and such, and shell for
other things.

----- Original Message -----
From: Shaun Oliver <shauno at goanna.net.au>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0

> thomas,
> I'm in agreement with you.
> the shell is not for everyone.
> but having said that, if people think that lthe x-windows system is
> going to be like ms windows, they have another thing coming.
> they'll be both pleasantly surprised and in for a nasty shock.
> in as much as with linux there isn't as many crashes as there is with
> windows but by the same token, it pays to learn as much about your
> machine as possible because linux isn't going to hand hold anybody
> either.
> those are just my thoughts.
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > hey, he wanted to know Speakups limatations and I told him. Weather
> > wants to believe it or not x-windows is a big part of the sited world.
> > Users that come from MS Windows often ask me if Linux has a gui just
> > Windows, and they want that ease of use. Many blind users won't use
> > just because they can't use x.
> >
> > I still use Windows and Linux, because I don't have the option of the
> > apps for x. I'd like to be able to use Gnofin, Star Office, and plenty
> > other apps that should be accessible once Gnopernicus comes out.
> >
> > I have a vary fast 1.2 GHZ ddesktop computer with lots of ram, and x
> > like a demon on my computer. I haven't noticed any memory or speed loss
> > using x. X even runs pretty decently on my laptop which is only a p166
> > 80 MB of ram. X operates better than MS Windows as far as speed, and I'm
> > sure what you are getting at as a memory hog.
> >
> > The point here is that the sighted world does use X for almost
> > and we should have access to that interface as well. I'll use any
> > that gets me where I want to go, and any apps I chose to. Frankly, i am
> > sure why people complain about anyone who shows an interest in a
> > interface. The shell interface is not for everyone. I frankly can't
> > every single command for Linux, and know it would be easier just to
click a
> > button or menu item to do that command.
> >
> >
> >
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> --
> Shaun Oliver
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> engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering.
>                 -- Roger Price
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