Hewlet Packard and Linux

Gregory Nowak romualt at megsinet.net
Mon Aug 27 23:38:26 EDT 2001 

There is a comercial product that can
do that if your refering
to the junky windows, and not the Linux one.
I forget what it is called,
but it was described in iether the previous
or next to previous issue of the wifiwig news letter from
brailleinc.com
.
Greg


On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:50:58PM -0400, Peter M. Konka wrote:
> There was someone that told me that it is possible to take your Windows, 
> and change it that it is all text.  I dont honesly remember who said this 
> to me,  but he said that instead of icons, it turns everything to text 
> menus or command loines.
> 
> If anyone ever heard of this?  Please let me know.  Because i'd be very 
> interested to learn more about it...
> 
> 
> -- Peter
> 
> At 10:59 AM 8/25/01 -0400, you wrote:
> >Charley,
> >
> >For those who want it easy, we can make it easy.  Before windows crashed
> >on to the scene, dos was beginning to take a form that did not force
> >anyone to know a whole lot about it to drive it and you could even do it
> >yourself.  I configured several machines such that the first thing that
> >was seen was a menu to select what you wanted to do.  I even set up
> >machines so that you booted directly to dial up or wp.
> >
> >You already know this though.  Well, with shell commands in the boot, we
> >can do the same for users of linux who are not into arcana
> >
> >I am personally into it but still have a lot to learn.
> >.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Charles Crawford" <ccrawford at acb.org>
> >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 8:42 AM
> >Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux
> >
> >
> >Well said Rodney and it truly appeals to the programming part of me.  I
> >guess my concerns are that there are many who just want a computer that
> >offers them flexibility without as you say getting under the hood.  If
> >our
> >workplaces, educational institutions, and other main stream parts of
> >life
> >are off with Windows, then resources get targeted there and a really
> >good
> >thing gets marginalized.  I would be interested to hear from others and
> >maybe I am just getting too esoteric?
> >
> >-- Charlie.
> >At 01:32 AM 08/25/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Could not agree with you more.  In the real world there are mechanics
> >who
> > >love the joy of building a fine running engine and getting under the
> >hood
> > >to fine tune it.  Then there are most people who could care less what's
> > >under the hood as long as it's pretty, it runs and gets them from point
> >a
> > >to point b.  Likewise with Linux.  There are those who love to write
> > >software without restraints and those who love to configure that
> >software
> > >to their style and taste.  That's the beauty of Linux and the thousands
> >of
> > >text based programs.  Yes every text based program has to be learned
> >and
> > >configured but that's the fun of it.  A blind person can configure
> >Linux
> > >however he pleases and yes it's a greasy job but at least we'll know
> >how
> > >to make it run like we want it and not like somebody else tells us how
> >it
> > >should be.
> > >I'm learning the ropes of alsaplayer, freeamp, alsamixer, pmidi, play,
> > >sfxload, etc:  I'm also learning about the many powerful features of
> >the
> > >Sound Blaster Live card.  I'm able to do things I could never do in
> > >Winblows or a stereo player.  I can configure these command line
> >programs
> > >to play whatever songs I want to hear.  I can name my files whatever I
> > >want to allow for better archiving for easier retrieving.  For example
> >I
> > >just figured out a few minutes ago that I can save my irish bagpipe
> >.mp3
> > >files by adding an extra extension to the end of .mp3 like for example
> >a
> > >song named  < sailer's lament.mp3.bp >  I added an .bp at the end of
> >.mp3
> > >so that when I want to play all my bagpipe mp3 files which may be in my
> > >music directory I just simply type freeamp *.mp3.bp and bingo all my
> > >bagpipe songs will play until all of the files with the extension bp at
> > >the end of .mp3 are finished playing!  Now that's the joy of Linux!
> >Linux
> > >allows me to listen to music in a way that's virtually impossible using
> > >Windblows or a fancy expensive stereo equipment.
> > >I just thought of another idea while I'm typing and that's the another
> > >beauty about Linux if you can think it you can do it. Suppose you have
> > >your favorite country music among others.  Just add fc to the end of
> >the
> > >mp3 extension and you can create a script that runs freeamp that allows
> > >you just to type myfavoritecountrymusic and bingo all your favorite
> > >country music starts up!  The possiblity are endless and that's why
> >it's
> > >hard to find a pre-configured Linux box to do everything like you want
> >it
> > >because every Linux box is probably configured to that person's taste.
> > >We are a Linux community and we share our configurations and ideas with
> > >others.  It's all about sharing.  We will never need the commercialized
> > >version of Linux to fit our needs.  The blind linux community has all
> >the
> > >tools we need to share and to explore the endless possiblities.  We
> >have
> > >the tools to make the best speech interface computer this world has yet
> >to
> > >see.  We are just getting started.  We have not yet begun to fight. And
> >in
> > >accordance to a famous line "Give me liberty or give me death!"  "Give
> >me
> > >Linux or give me Windows!" Take your pick. <grin>
> > >Rodney
> > >The Weaving Beaver
> > >rclowdus at kcnet.com
> > >"Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice."
> > >"Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice."
> > >
> > >On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Linux is not a comercial product
> > > > in the way that macroslop windows is.
> > > > So, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
> > > > There will always have to be a text console on a system, and you can
> > > edit init scripts
> > > > to provent xwindows from starting up.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:33:46PM -0400, Charles Crawford wrote:
> > > > > Liz,
> > > > >
> > > > >          I think you are wise to get ahead of the game by doing
> >the stuff
> > > > > Linux can do without the heartaches of configure configure
> >configure.  If
> > > > > Linux is to make the mainstream or at least a brook, then it has
> >to work
> > > > > for the average person without too much of the configuring issues.
> >I
> > > know,
> > > > > its kind of plug and play, but why not have our cake and eat it
> >too?  We
> > > > > get the ease of setup and the power of Linux.  What's not to
> > > like?  Smile.
> > > > >
> > > > >          My bigger concern is the Xwindows problem of a repeat of
> >what
> > > > > Windows did to DOS.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Charlie.
> > > > > At 04:12 PM 08/24/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>"no market," but the radical truth is more like "We haven't a
> > > > > >>clue of how to get money for it."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Forgive a comment from an extreme newbie who doesn't even *have*
> > > Linux yet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I've been looking at the companies who make Linux preinstalled
> >systems
> > > > > >(there's a long list at linux.org), and they seem to have some
> >kind of
> > > > > >market niche because some of them use hardware that has been
> >tested
> > > and is
> > > > > >known to be Linux-compatible.  With the Windoze dominance of the
> >entire
> > > > > >computing market, it's attractive to me to buy a system whose
> >components
> > > > > >are known to be compatible with Linux.  It seems better than
> >ordering
> > > > > >elsewhere and not being sure the different parts of the system
> >will work
> > > > > >well with Linux.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >any comments or thoughts?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Liz
> > > > > >Liz Hare, Ph.D.
> > > > > >Research Associate
> > > > > >Animal Breeding and Genetics Group
> > > > > >B47 Morrison Hall
> > > > > >Cornell University
> > > > > >Ithaca, NY 14853
> > > > > >(607) 255 2380
> > > > > >eh51 at cornell.edu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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