Hewlet Packard and Linux

[Peter M. Konka]

There was someone that told me that it is possible to take your Windows, 
and change it that it is all text.  I dont honesly remember who said this 
to me,  but he said that instead of icons, it turns everything to text 
menus or command loines.

If anyone ever heard of this?  Please let me know.  Because i'd be very 
interested to learn more about it...


-- Peter

At 10:59 AM 8/25/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Charley,
>
>For those who want it easy, we can make it easy.  Before windows crashed
>on to the scene, dos was beginning to take a form that did not force
>anyone to know a whole lot about it to drive it and you could even do it
>yourself.  I configured several machines such that the first thing that
>was seen was a menu to select what you wanted to do.  I even set up
>machines so that you booted directly to dial up or wp.
>
>You already know this though.  Well, with shell commands in the boot, we
>can do the same for users of linux who are not into arcana
>
>I am personally into it but still have a lot to learn.
>.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Charles Crawford" <ccrawford at acb.org>
>To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 8:42 AM
>Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux
>
>
>Well said Rodney and it truly appeals to the programming part of me.  I
>guess my concerns are that there are many who just want a computer that
>offers them flexibility without as you say getting under the hood.  If
>our
>workplaces, educational institutions, and other main stream parts of
>life
>are off with Windows, then resources get targeted there and a really
>good
>thing gets marginalized.  I would be interested to hear from others and
>maybe I am just getting too esoteric?
>
>-- Charlie.
>At 01:32 AM 08/25/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Could not agree with you more.  In the real world there are mechanics
>who
> >love the joy of building a fine running engine and getting under the
>hood
> >to fine tune it.  Then there are most people who could care less what's
> >under the hood as long as it's pretty, it runs and gets them from point
>a
> >to point b.  Likewise with Linux.  There are those who love to write
> >software without restraints and those who love to configure that
>software
> >to their style and taste.  That's the beauty of Linux and the thousands
>of
> >text based programs.  Yes every text based program has to be learned
>and
> >configured but that's the fun of it.  A blind person can configure
>Linux
> >however he pleases and yes it's a greasy job but at least we'll know
>how
> >to make it run like we want it and not like somebody else tells us how
>it
> >should be.
> >I'm learning the ropes of alsaplayer, freeamp, alsamixer, pmidi, play,
> >sfxload, etc:  I'm also learning about the many powerful features of
>the
> >Sound Blaster Live card.  I'm able to do things I could never do in
> >Winblows or a stereo player.  I can configure these command line
>programs
> >to play whatever songs I want to hear.  I can name my files whatever I
> >want to allow for better archiving for easier retrieving.  For example
>I
> >just figured out a few minutes ago that I can save my irish bagpipe
>.mp3
> >files by adding an extra extension to the end of .mp3 like for example
>a
> >song named  < sailer's lament.mp3.bp >  I added an .bp at the end of
>.mp3
> >so that when I want to play all my bagpipe mp3 files which may be in my
> >music directory I just simply type freeamp *.mp3.bp and bingo all my
> >bagpipe songs will play until all of the files with the extension bp at
> >the end of .mp3 are finished playing!  Now that's the joy of Linux!
>Linux
> >allows me to listen to music in a way that's virtually impossible using
> >Windblows or a fancy expensive stereo equipment.
> >I just thought of another idea while I'm typing and that's the another
> >beauty about Linux if you can think it you can do it. Suppose you have
> >your favorite country music among others.  Just add fc to the end of
>the
> >mp3 extension and you can create a script that runs freeamp that allows
> >you just to type myfavoritecountrymusic and bingo all your favorite
> >country music starts up!  The possiblity are endless and that's why
>it's
> >hard to find a pre-configured Linux box to do everything like you want
>it
> >because every Linux box is probably configured to that person's taste.
> >We are a Linux community and we share our configurations and ideas with
> >others.  It's all about sharing.  We will never need the commercialized
> >version of Linux to fit our needs.  The blind linux community has all
>the
> >tools we need to share and to explore the endless possiblities.  We
>have
> >the tools to make the best speech interface computer this world has yet
>to
> >see.  We are just getting started.  We have not yet begun to fight. And
>in
> >accordance to a famous line "Give me liberty or give me death!"  "Give
>me
> >Linux or give me Windows!" Take your pick. <grin>
> >Rodney
> >The Weaving Beaver
> >rclowdus at kcnet.com
> >"Chop your own firewood and it will warm you twice."
> >"Weave your own cloth and it will reward you twice."
> >
> >On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > Linux is not a comercial product
> > > in the way that macroslop windows is.
> > > So, I don't think you have anything to worry about.
> > > There will always have to be a text console on a system, and you can
> > edit init scripts
> > > to provent xwindows from starting up.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 09:33:46PM -0400, Charles Crawford wrote:
> > > > Liz,
> > > >
> > > >          I think you are wise to get ahead of the game by doing
>the stuff
> > > > Linux can do without the heartaches of configure configure
>configure.  If
> > > > Linux is to make the mainstream or at least a brook, then it has
>to work
> > > > for the average person without too much of the configuring issues.
>I
> > know,
> > > > its kind of plug and play, but why not have our cake and eat it
>too?  We
> > > > get the ease of setup and the power of Linux.  What's not to
> > like?  Smile.
> > > >
> > > >          My bigger concern is the Xwindows problem of a repeat of
>what
> > > > Windows did to DOS.
> > > >
> > > > -- Charlie.
> > > > At 04:12 PM 08/24/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>"no market," but the radical truth is more like "We haven't a
> > > > >>clue of how to get money for it."
> > > > >
> > > > >Forgive a comment from an extreme newbie who doesn't even *have*
> > Linux yet.
> > > > >
> > > > >I've been looking at the companies who make Linux preinstalled
>systems
> > > > >(there's a long list at linux.org), and they seem to have some
>kind of
> > > > >market niche because some of them use hardware that has been
>tested
> > and is
> > > > >known to be Linux-compatible.  With the Windoze dominance of the
>entire
> > > > >computing market, it's attractive to me to buy a system whose
>components
> > > > >are known to be compatible with Linux.  It seems better than
>ordering
> > > > >elsewhere and not being sure the different parts of the system
>will work
> > > > >well with Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > >any comments or thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > >Liz
> > > > >Liz Hare, Ph.D.
> > > > >Research Associate
> > > > >Animal Breeding and Genetics Group
> > > > >B47 Morrison Hall
> > > > >Cornell University
> > > > >Ithaca, NY 14853
> > > > >(607) 255 2380
> > > > >eh51 at cornell.edu
> > > > >
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