Hewlet Packard and Linux

Gregory Nowak romualt at megsinet.net
Fri Aug 24 17:54:34 EDT 2001


Do they give the distro cds with theese
preinstalled machines?
Greg


On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 10:58:31AM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Charles:
> 
> A couple of things about this:
> 
> 1.)	My experience with vendor installed linux is that they often don't
> install alll the packages I need. I have seen this with my IBM laptop,
> which came with Caldera 2.4 Desktop preinstalled, and with Redhat 7.0 (my
> own installation), when I selected the "laptop" install. I have reverted
> to doing custom installs. My experience is that the default vendor
> installs are skewed toward the gui (not surprisingly) and that, therefore,
> various console utilities are missing. Now, one can certainly add these by
> hand, but it's just easier to install them up front and not mess with some
> vendor's idea of what you should have;
> 
> 2.)	It is unlikely hp (or any other vendor) will speech-enable their
> linux installs until these are part of the distributions themselves--until
> speakup is part of Redhat, Debian, Slackware, etc. That's the effort that
> will pay off best, imho;
> 
> 3.)	We may not actually want to speech enable your server. Radical as
> that sounds, speakup does slow down the computer, in my experience. Kirk,
> may not agree, but this is my experience, and that of several others. Let
> me defend this suggestion by asking why we would put speech on the machine
> if we're going to locate it at some server farm were we're never going to
> see it? All administration will be done over the wire--so the machine
> should be built optimized for access over the wire, and not for access on
> a local console, imho;
> 
> Just my two cents on this. Glad to see that you're getting more
> comfortable about the commercial viability of linux, though! <big grin>
> 
>  On
> Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Charles Crawford wrote:
> 
> > 	I don't know what others may know about this, but I was impressed when I
> > went over to the HP.com page to discover they have linux servers and
> > desktops for sale.  Very interesting indeed.  Now I need to contact them
> > and make sure they have the versions that support speech.  Maybe, we could
> > actually get them to offer speech interface as a feature when prchasing is
> > made?
> >
> > -- Charlie.
> >
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