Standalone E-Mail

[brent harding]

Wow, my isp bounces mail if I'm off for four hours, so did my previous one.
I don't know what'll happen if or when I get dsl or something. Don't know
when it'll come to our area, but a guy told me that I could run anything I
want with it, this new site bungi.com sounds promising for uucp, I've never
used that, and don't know how to configure it, but it sounds like it'll do
what I need, and it's free, I hear. I can't find the signup form on their
site though, and they say they'll feed it over the internet, how cool!!
		At 07:09 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>No, they do not bounce. Mail simply queus until our server is back online.
>Our current isp is concentric. Previously we were using Digex with the
>same behavior.
>
>PS: When we first set up our mail service back around 1997 we actually
>tested this by intentionally killing the sendmail processes for a weekend.
>
>On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:
>
>> Do they bounce mail right away, those warnings that listservers
>> auto-unsubscribe you because of?
>> My provider seems to be down enough to be kicked off of lists some times,
>> thanks to their majordomo bounce script. If there was intelligence in that
>> thing to not unsubscribe you because of a warning.
>> At 06:53 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>> >It slows the boot process considerably on my system.
>> >
>> >Also, I was not suggesting keeping a queu of outgoing mail for 4 or 5
>> >days. I was saying that our isp holds our incoming mail that long, giving
>> >us a chance to fix whatever it is that is keeping us off-line. This is
>> >sufficient to hold mail should the server go down at the beginning of a
>> >three or four day holliday weekend--assuming no one would go in just to
>> >fix mail for a company that's not open for business.
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon
slows
>> >> down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply
tries
>> >> the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I
>> >> wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent!
>> >> Vic
>> >> 
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
>> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> > Hi, Victor:
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of
having a
>> >> > mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only
>> >> > slows down system performance.
>> >> >
>> >> > Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while
>> >> > off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and
>> >> > someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it
right
>> >> > then.
>> >> >
>> >> > Janina
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hi, Janina!
>> >> > > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a
>> >> coincidence!
>> >> > > Regards,
>> >> > > Vic
>> >> > >
>> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
>> >> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM
>> >> > > Subject: Standalone E-Mail
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Hi, Brett:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my
notebook
>> >> > > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my
>> >> main
>> >> > > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I
travel
>> >> > > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like
Europe,
>> >> it's
>> >> > > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel
room.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp
after
>> >> > > > establishing a ppp connection;
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command --
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > sendmail -q0
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > that's send mail dash q zero
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my
system.
>> >> It's
>> >> > > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific
>> >> sendmail
>> >> > > > command.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without
>> trouble,
>> >> > > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my
room,
>> >> and
>> >> > > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply
qued for
>> >> later
>> >> > > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command
once
>> >> I'm
>> >> > > > online.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my
>> isp.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > --
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Janina Sajka, Director
>> >> > > > Information Systems Research & Development
>> >> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > janina at afb.net
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
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>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Janina Sajka, Director
>> >> > Information Systems Research & Development
>> >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>> >> >
>> >> > janina at afb.net
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >				Janina Sajka, Director
>> >				Information Systems Research & Development
>> >				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>> >
>> >janina at afb.net
>> >
>> >
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>
>				Janina Sajka, Director
>				Information Systems Research & Development
>				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
>janina at afb.net
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