Standalone E-Mail

[Janina Sajka]

No, they do not bounce. Mail simply queus until our server is back online.
Our current isp is concentric. Previously we were using Digex with the
same behavior.

PS: When we first set up our mail service back around 1997 we actually
tested this by intentionally killing the sendmail processes for a weekend.

On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, brent harding wrote:

> Do they bounce mail right away, those warnings that listservers
> auto-unsubscribe you because of?
> My provider seems to be down enough to be kicked off of lists some times,
> thanks to their majordomo bounce script. If there was intelligence in that
> thing to not unsubscribe you because of a warning.
> At 06:53 PM 6/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >It slows the boot process considerably on my system.
> >
> >Also, I was not suggesting keeping a queu of outgoing mail for 4 or 5
> >days. I was saying that our isp holds our incoming mail that long, giving
> >us a chance to fix whatever it is that is keeping us off-line. This is
> >sufficient to hold mail should the server go down at the beginning of a
> >three or four day holliday weekend--assuming no one would go in just to
> >fix mail for a company that's not open for business.
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I am not sure what you mean when you say that Sendmail daemon slows
> >> down the system. It certainly doesn't in my case. My Sendmail simply tries
> >> the message and if the connection is not present, itwill try later. I
> >> wouldn't keep my mail for four days waiting to be sent!
> >> Vic
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:44 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Standalone E-Mail
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Hi, Victor:
> >> >
> >> > Well, and it makes sense. I guess I just don't see the logic of having a
> >> > mailor like sendmail always active if it can't be doing its job. Only
> >> > slows down system performance.
> >> >
> >> > Besides, it's really cool to be able to write and queu mail while
> >> > off-line. It's useful, for example, if I'm sitting in a conference and
> >> > someone says to me, "Can you send me that in email?" I just do it right
> >> > then.
> >> >
> >> > Janina
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi, Janina!
> >> > > I just wrote the same advice to Brad on another list. What a
> >> coincidence!
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > Vic
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> >> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:48 AM
> >> > > Subject: Standalone E-Mail
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi, Brett:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I just wanted to drop you note about how I handle mail on my notebook
> >> > > > computer. Needless to say, it's off-line a lot. First, it's not my
> >> main
> >> > > > machine when I'm in the office, and it's off-line a lot when I travel
> >> > > > because I'm on a plane, or something. Becides, in places like Europe,
> >> it's
> >> > > > far too expensive to just leave it up online from one's hotel room.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, here's what I do. I hope it helps you:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 1.) I use fetchmail to get all of my incoming mail from my isp after
> >> > > > establishing a ppp connection;
> >> > > >
> >> > > > 2.) Since I use sendmail as my mailor, I then issue the command --
> >> > > >
> >> > > > sendmail -q0
> >> > > >
> >> > > > that's send mail dash q zero
> >> > > >
> >> > > > to dump the messages that have been qued for transmittal.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This works because sendmail is not loaded as a daemon on my system.
> >> It's
> >> > > > only active when I issue the command above, or another specific
> >> sendmail
> >> > > > command.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > This way, I can write all the messages I want in Pine without
> trouble,
> >> > > > whether or not I'm writing on the airplane, or at my desk in my room,
> >> and
> >> > > > whether or not I'm online when I write them. They're simply qued for
> >> later
> >> > > > transmittal, which is accomplished by the sendmail -q0 command once
> >> I'm
> >> > > > online.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > PS: I've also set the smtp address in my Pine configuration to my
> isp.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Janina Sajka, Director
> >> > > > Information Systems Research & Development
> >> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > janina at afb.net
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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> >> >
> >> > Janina Sajka, Director
> >> > Information Systems Research & Development
> >> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >> >
> >> > janina at afb.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
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> >
> >				Janina Sajka, Director
> >				Information Systems Research & Development
> >				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> >janina at afb.net
> >
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina at afb.net