Hello all

Wed Jul 5 14:02:30 EDT 2000

You need an nntp server.  No way of getting around this.  Most IPS's have
something like news.isp-domain.net.  I have never heard of an ISP which
didn't offer news.

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 11:26 AM
To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Hello all

What if I have no access to an nntp server? My isp doesn't give me one.
I don't think they block ports, but they just don't offer a news server, do
I need one to make it work?
At 10:46 AM 7/5/00 -0500, you wrote:
>On my home machine, I installed c-news.  This is a newsfeed program.  It
>takes care of presenting and removing old articles.  For news transport, I
>use newsx.  It requires no setup on the ISP end.  To them, newsx just looks
>like another nntp client.  There is a HOWTO on setting up a small news leaf
>node on metalab
> .
>Terry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:00 PM
>To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
>Subject: RE: Hello all
>
>
>I usually run ksh on my linux system, when I telnet to my isp now, it says
>something like permission denied connection closed, guess they don't offer
>shell. They don't offer news groups either. Is there any easy way to get
>access to a few news groups in linux without having access to a news
>server? Is there news to email services around?
>At 03:37 PM 6/29/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hey Terry,
>>The question is: "what telnet program do you use to access your UNIX boxes
>>from WINDOWS?  I have found that comnet works better than the stock telnet
>>that comes with WINDOWS.  Unfortunately coment works a little better with
>>WINDOW-EYES than with JFW.  Of course Linux telnet works the best.
>>
>>Brent, if you happen to be running the csh or tcsh shells on your isp the
>>following is the equivalent of what Terry did with ksh:
>>setenv TERM vt100
>>
>>     Jim
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Klarich, Terry wrote:
>>
>>> Hey brent:
>>> 
>>> Well, Williams provides me a laptop.  On my laptop, I am running (or
>trying
>>> to run) windows.  I use both jfw and jfd.
>>> 
>>> When my laptop  is docked, I have an ethernet connection to all the
>machines
>>> I am responsible for.  I use telnet from my laptop to connect.
>>> 
>>> When I am in the data center, I use a serial connection directly from my
>>> laptop to the console port of the machine I am working on.  We do not
put
>>> keyboards or monitors on our equipment in the data center.  In fact, I
>don't
>>> know any organization that does.
>>> 
>>> It sounds like you were unable to edit a file properly because your TERM
>>> environment variable was not set properly.  Generally, you should use
>vt100.
>>> With ksh as your shell do:
>>> 
>>> TERM=vt100
>>> export TERM
>>> 
>>> Note, "TERM" is in caps.
>>> 
>>> Terry
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: brent harding [mailto:bharding at greenbaynet.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:02 PM
>>> To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
>>> Subject: RE: Hello all
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How do you access these type of systems with speech? Does speakup work
on
>>> those machines, or how do you edit files on those systems, because dos
>>> communications programs don't edit remote files easily. I messed up my
>>> shell account on my old provider because the arrow keys actually send
>weird
>>> stuff to the file.
>>> At 08:53 AM 6/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>> >Hey Jim:
>>> >
>>> >Thanks for the note on Bill being the person who built the redhat
>>> >installation disks.  I plan to upgrade my home machine from 6.0 to 6.2
>this
>>> >weekend by using speakup.  (Can't wait)!
>>> >
>>> >Actually, I am a senior systems analyst for Williams Communications
>group
>>> >(wcg).  I primarily design and take care of large sun clusters running
>>> >solaris.  We have some AIX and hpux equipment as well.
>>> >
>>> >Like you, I would not even consider installing redhat via ppp.
>>> >
>>> >Terry
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Jim Wantz [mailto:jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov]
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:55 PM
>>> >To: 'speakup at braille.uwo.ca'
>>> >Subject: RE: Hello all
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hi Terry,
>>> >And I thought I'd been around UNIX for a long time, my first exposure
>was
>>> >with SUN/OS around 1992.  By the way, Bill Acker is the ultimate
>authority
>>> >on which disk names are what, because he built the Redhat ones.  Though
>>> >I've been programming in C since about the mid 80s, I know nothing
about
>>> >kernel hacking or drivers.  I sure want to learn though!
>>> >
>>> > PPP would be a very tough go for installing Linux.  I'm not even sure
>I'd
>>> >want to try it from my cable modem--but the time required on a 56K
>>> >connection would be ridiculous.  Go with the CD!
>>> >
>>> >     Jim WB0TFK
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >
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