Speakup with vim

Michael Whapples mwhapples at aim.com
Tue Feb 15 17:41:38 EST 2011

Al, I think your comments generally reflect what I am getting the 
feeling of. I possibly have one other issue making emacs harder, not 
only are there all those multiple key presses but any involving ctrl is 
made harder by my computers' positioning of the ctrl key, shifted right 
by one key because there is a FN key living in the bottom left of my 

I'll probably experiment around more with vim and may be other vi 
variants as I do feel the editor itself is more comfortable to use (yes 
the mode thing is something which catches me out from time to time but I 
guess over time I will just get used to the idea of the different 
modes). I've heard that yasr possibly works better with vim in some cases.

Michael Whapples
On -10/01/37 20:59, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> I liked the way Speakup worked with Emacs better than the way it works with
> VIM.  I started out using Emacs.  I found the main drawback in Emacs for me
> to be the multi-key combinations needed to do a lot of things:  it actually
> was easier for me to adjust to Vim's different modes, although forgetting
> which one you're in can punch your face good.  Also, I could not seem to
> find in Emacs the means of saving word wrap and margin settings I wanted.  I
> may be wrong, but my impression is that, like Emacspeak, Emacs itself has
> quite the learning curve.
> Just my wooden penny's worth.
> Al
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:51 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Speakup with vim
> Thanks, that solves the specific issue. I still wonder if there is more
> which can be done to make vim work better, eg. using j and k (I can imagine
> they actually are quicker to use than cursor keys when you are used to them)
> speakup doesn't speak the new line you navigate to unless the screen is
> scrolling.
> Is this as good as speech output gets with vim? Might it be worth me giving
> emacs (may be with emacspeak) more time?
> Michael Whapples
> On -10/01/37 20:59, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>> Michael Whapples, le Mon 14 Feb 2011 09:10:39 +0000, a écrit :
>>> The one problem I notice most is that when I go into insert mode as I
>>> type speakup seems to read from the status line rather than the
>>> characters typed. Also related, when using j and k to move lines
>>> speakup reads the status line as well rather than the line being moved
> to.
>> See http://brl.thefreecat.org/wiki/vi to fix these.
>> Samuel
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