Debian Mess

Steve Holmes steve at
Sun Aug 10 16:06:17 EDT 2008

Hash: RIPEMD160

I don't know quite the best way to answer your question right now.
Tha lack of gnome natively in Slackware is one big draw-back to
Slackware.  I like slackware bad enough to try and install gnome
separately.  There are several gnome "mini distros" out there.  I
started with Drop Line gnome and it installed easily enough but I am
quite disappointed that it has not been keeping up with latest gnome
versions.  I'm a bit afraid to upgrade my slackware 12.0 to 12.1 for
it might mess up the drop line gnome packages.  I'm tempted to go and
upgrade to 12.1 and remove dropline and consider another gnome
distro.  I forget right now the names of others.  For my non-gnome
boxes, I'm inclined to stick with Slackware indefinitely but I'm
really tempted to start over with Debian but I am very partial to the
/etc file structure that Slackware uses; I'm not crazy about the
System V structure used by Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora.

On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 04:53:27PM -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
> Is it easy to install Gnome in Slackware?  That was one of my other 
> favorite distros and if I can do it on there it would be great.
> Steve Holmes wrote:
>> Hash: RIPEMD160
>> Wow, it sounds like you fell into a hole and dug in some and now it is
>> falling in on top of you. <smile>  If you don't have too much invested
>> in this setup, that is, not too much personal data or work of art or
>> whatever, you may want to wipe and start over.  I had to do that a
>> while back with Slackware because I tried re-installing X after having
>> part of Dropline Gnome installed and nothing worked right after that
>> so I just blew it all away and started over with a brand new install
>> of Slackware 12.0 at that time and then installed the gnome stuff and
>> I've been OK since.  I like Debian's dependancy tracking and all, but
>> I wonder if it goes too far some times.
>> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 02:48:58PM -0400, Robert Spangler wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Wow, this is messy.  I attempted to aptitude remove at-spi and it offered 
>>> to fix some dependency issues by removing gnome-accessibility, 
>>> gnome-orca, and Dasher along with some other accessibility stuff.  I 
>>> tried to find a way to prevent it from doing this but could not so ended 
>>> up letting it remove it all.  Then when I tried to compile atk from 
>>> source, it complained that some stuff was missing like gettext and 
>>> gtk-doc.  I couldn't find them as Debian packages so I installed them 
>>> from source.  (I think part of this is that there isn't a section on the 
>>> Orca web site describing how to set up the build environment on Debian!) 
>>> so I went back there and followed the instructions for Ubuntu, thinking 
>>> they would be close enough.  I did apt-get build-dep gnome-orca and 
>>> somewhere along the line some package called gnome-mag failed and insists 
>>> on failing.  So I attempted to reinstall it but it still insists on 
>>> failing.  Thinking that it may be a bug with the repository (I am using 
>>> unstable) I did a aptitude update and dist-upgrade.  This brought up even 
>>> another mess!  Remember how earlier I switched to lilo? Apparently, there 
>>> is a new kernel available and it thinks I still have grub, so it tried to 
>>> update my boot stuff by running a script called grub-update!  LOL it's 
>>> all a mess.  Ease of use?
>>> I love playing with other distros and have found Debian to be the easiest 
>>> as far as getting the desktop environment to work but still declare LFS 
>>> to be my favorite.
>>> Thanks all,
>>> Robby
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