debian installation

Sina Bahram sbahram at
Sun Feb 12 18:46:47 EST 2006

What do you mean the non-free version from sun's site?

My understanding is that the jvm is absolutely and 100% free. There's just
licensing issues with packaging the stupid thing up with distros, but as far
as cost: it is free.

Am I mistaken on this for Linux?

I know it to be absolutley true for Windows and Mac OSX.

Take care,

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The up/down arrows move you from yes to no, and the tab moves you from back
to continue. Generally, if you here yes-no, then the last thing you heard is
the choice you're on now, (I.E. no in the yes-no case). You can also press 5
on the numpad, which is the key for say word in speakup, and it will tell
you what you're currently on now (I.E. you'll hear <no> if you're on no).
This might also apply to back and continue, but I don't remember if it
actually does. These problems have been for the most part taken care of by
the hilight tracking feature, so you shouldn't run into this very often.

To use/edit the previous command-line, just press the up-arrow at the shell
prompt. To edit that command line, use the left and right arrow keys.
Pressing backspace will delete the character prior to the one you're on now.
Typing a character or characters will insert it or them to the left of the
character on which you are on now.

As for java, there is a free java compiler called jgcc I think, and there is
most likely a java interpreter as well. When I had to use java however, my
preference was to download the non-free version from Sun's site, and install
and use that compiler and vm, and I don't know if those are available as a
debian package, or if you need to grab them from Sun's site directly. Hth.


On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:04:04AM -0700, Ned wrote:
> for now i'll install the dns server since that's what we do at school, 
> and later on, after mastering the system, i will play with it any way i
> i forgot to ask couple of questions related to speakup itself:
> on the screen when grub bootloader is installed, the buttons are read 
> by speakup  as "go back yes" (the yes button), "go back no" (the no 
> button), and "yes no" (don't know that one); and also on the finishing 
> installation screen the "go back" and "continue" buttons are both read 
> as "go back continue"; how does one get around this problem in 
> distinguishing which one is which?
> and this must be linux question of which i should be ashamed, but anyway: 
> how do i edit a previously entered command line, that is, how do i 
> insert or delete from it other than appending it and deleting from its
> by-the-way, does java virtual machine as well as a java compiler come 
> by default in debian? i know that the gcc c/c++ compiler as well as 
> perl interpreter do. how wonderfull!!!
> many thanks good people!
> ned

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