Another newbie

Jack Daniels Labitup at
Sat Nov 24 10:39:31 EST 2001

Thanks Tom. Unfortunately, no way to add a CDROM to this machine.  It's a
very small computer, (2.5X11.5X8.5) it has built-in everything, and room
for only a hard disk and a floppy.  I picked it up for $25 a while ago, and
thought it would make a neat Linux box.  Perhaps a parallel CD drive will
become a possibility for me down the road.

I already have the Speakup files on the system and will just go ahead and
begin reading the kernal info and start that learning curve now. If I run
into problems, I know where to come for help.  

At 11:32 PM 11/22/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi, my comments are below inside your message.I have tried to answer all
>your questions as clearly as I can. I hope this helps.
>See below.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jack Daniels" <Labitup at>
>To: <speakup at>
>Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 11:30 AM
>Subject: Another newbie
>> Hi, I am new to Speakup, and I have been following the list for just a
>> short while now.  I want to learn whether the following is possible, and
>> how to best accomplish it.
>That's great. I'll see what we can do for you.
>> First, some info about my Linux box.  I have a very small PC installed
>> Redhat 7.1, kernal 2.4.2-12 running on a P133 with no CDROM.
>> A friend set it up for me and I am currently using a serial connection
>> My Win98 PC.
>> What I want to be able to do is to insert a floppy with Speakup and any
>> necessary boot files and have Linux  come up talking.  Is this possible?
>> If so, what do I need to get/do?
>Yes, it is possible, but someone would have to compile you a talking boot
>disk image  of Speakup, for your kernel and send it too you.
>Another suggestion is to get Emacspeak rpm, put it on a floppy, and install
>it to your box. At least you would  have speech natively on your Linux box
>until you were able to build a Speakup kernel for your machine.
>> I want to use a DEC Express on COM2, keeping the serial connection on
>This is totally possible. Speakup [probes for your synths ports, and almost
>always finds the synth on ttys0 and ttys1. which are com1 and com2 under
>> If this is possible, and I thought it was from reading the list for just a
>> short time, what files do I need?
>> How do I use them?
>> Any info out there detailing this process?
>Unfortunately, I don't know of any specific documents that exactly gives you
>a step by step howto on what to do, but most of us are old hands, or at
>least know something about what we are doing.
>Read the kernel howto, and the readme documentation in your kernel source
>You basically, will need a clean kernel source tree, and the speakup source.
>Also make sure you have kernel headers installed, compilers installed, and
>are able to build kernels.
>> I am sure there is info I have left out, so please ask any questions, and
>> will answer them to the best of my ability.  Rememberr, I am new, never
>> built a kernal, the more detailed your response, the better.
>Ok, is it possible that you can get a cd rom drive for your computer? Bill
>has Red Hat 7.2 cd's that come with Speakup built in. All you do is install
>the cd's, restart, and wam you have speech.
>I've been where you are now. Looking at a stock distribution, and wondering
>how to get it to talk. Here is how I learned to do it if it is a stock
>distribution and not a Speakup modified distribution.
>I downloaded Emacspeak current version, and loaded my Dectalk Express. Then,
>I accessed the shell by doing alt+x, and typed shell.
>Once I had a talking shell, I then installed the Speakup source from floppy,
>and put in the Linux cd, and installed the kernel source. Then, built a
>talking kernel.
>Since you don't have a cd rom drive you may have to substitute by first
>configuring wvdial, and then while in Emacs with Emacspeak do an alt+x and
>type term.
>This puts Emacs in a terminal  mode, and you can run wvdial & to get your
>internet connection.
>Then, you can run the Linux ftp program to ftp files from the
>site to your box.
>So here is the summary. While it is possible to do what you want it does
>require some compiling, configuring,  and large learning curves. However,
>once you do it a couple of times it won't seam so huge.
>However, if you want a quick and simple solution see if you can get Bill's
>modified Red Hat 7.2 disks from the Speakup ftp site, and install that. That
>way you get speech out of the box, and can consentrate on learning the os
>without plunging head-long into advanced compiling, configuring, and all
>> Thank you in advance for helping another newbie get up and talking with
>> Speakup!
>> Jack
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