Espeakup and Speech-Dispatcher-git--Fighting again?

[Didier Spaier]

Sorry for the many typos in the post I just sent, and for mistyping
Chris name.

On 23/03/2019 22:45, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Hi Janina
> 
> Setting these two directives like this in speechd.conf won't ever work,
> I think:
> AudioOutputMethod "libao"
> AudioALSADevice "plughw:1"
> 
> In the first one you tell to use the libao audio output, but
> the second one is only used if you use the alsa audio output instead
> if I understand well.
> 
> If initially the card # 1 used with speech-dispatcher thte is because
> of some other setting, I think. I don't know which one, you will
> need to a look ayour Arch configuration and sercice files to
> find oouT.
> 
> So if you use the libao output (libao using in turn its alsa backend,
> I assume), you will have to find another way to set the card to use
> for speech managed by speech-dispatcher, than to do this setting in
> speechd.conf.
> 
> One of the possibility would be a setting in /etc/asound.conf or
> in ~/.asoundrc
> 
> Oh, and you can't take the config file I sent you as is and hope
> it will work in Arch, as the settings in it have to be read by
> some script managing espeakup. This is the case in Slint but
> not in Arch. So if you want to use these settings in Arch you
> will have to find out by why script they should be used,
> and maybe modify it to read them.
> 
> I can't resist to suggest that you try Slint instead <smile>.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Didier
> 
> PS I received the answer from Cris while typing. But I don't
> think our answers contradict each other, fortunately. 	
> 
> On 23/03/2019 20:20, Janina Sajka wrote:
>> Hi, Didier:
>>
>> Once again you're providing some very helpful guidance. Thank you so
>> very much for that.
>>
>> Yes, I'm using arch, but I'm the other way around from what you're
>> saying. I'm using speech-dispatcher-git, but only the espeakup release
>> at the moment. The reason is that the current speech-dispatcher relase
>> isn't correctly accepting an alsa card designation, i.e. it won't honor
>> these two directives in speechd.conf:
>>
> 
>>
>> I am now going to put your espeakup script in place on my machine and
>> try a reboot. I will report.
>>
>> Thank you for this script. I wasn't aware all these directives could be
>> included. This should solve my problem, I hope! <grin>
>>
>> Janina
>>
>> Didier Spaier writes:
>>> Hi Janina,
>>>
>>> IIRC you are running Arch. Right?
>>>
>>> If yes, looking at the PKGBUILD I see that it grabs a snapshot from
>>> git at the commit d25ed10d dated 22 nov. 2018:
>>> https://github.com/brailcom/speechd/commit/d25ed10d5ede8c0f747211928fbd5f742d753556
>>>
>>> So I am puzzled that you just get it, knowing the PKGBUILD was last updated
>>> on 24. Nov. 2018...
>>>
>>> So, I can't see a reason for speech-dispatcher be in concern for an issue
>>> occurring this week.
>>>
>>> And espeakup-git (if that's what you use) was last updated on
>>> 2019-01-03 18:14.
>>>
>>> So I am puzzled. I don't know what happened recently, but this issue should be
>>> reported to your distribution rather than to upstream IMHO.
>>>
>>> Also, a tip: you can set ALSA_CARD before starting espeakup, it will
>>> honor this setting. This how we now do in Slint, cf. attached file
>>> /etc/espeakup.conf.
>>>
>>> To know which files are involved in Arch, have a look at the bottom
>>> of https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=espeakup-git
>>>
>>> Sorry I can't provide further guidance, not running Arch.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Didier
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22/03/2019 15:43, Janina Sajka wrote:
>>>> I tend to update globally about once a week, usually on Fridays. With
>>>> today's update of Speech-Dispatcher-git Espeakup is broken.
>>>>
>>>> 1.)	I boot to a console login. Works as expected. Speakup speaks
>>>> with Espeak on hw:0. Yes, I'm using alsa, not pulse.
>>>>
>>>> 2.)	I launch the graphical desktop with startx and Orca comes up
>>>> over Speech-Dispatcher using libao on hw:1 as specified in speechd.conf.
>>>>
>>>> 3.)	Switching back to any console, speech is gone. Doing a systemctl
>>>> restart espeakup puts speech on hw:2.
>>>>
>>>> This is bonkers.
>>>>
>>>> PS: Isn't it time we could control what device the soft synth driver
>>>> speaks to with a configuration option? Perhaps an additional parameter
>>>> in /etc/conf.d/espeakup?
>>>>
>>>> Or is it supposed to be in /etc/speakup/espeakup?
>>>>
>>>> Both those configs say basically the same thing, but they're not
>>>> symlinked. Why?
>>>>
>>
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