: Using enter or using arrows, that is the question

Glenn At Home GlennErvin at cableone.net
Sat Apr 13 15:33:08 EDT 2019


Hi Willem,
Any chance you can do this for ARM as well?
Thanks.

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From: "Willem van der Walt" <wvdwalt at csir.co.za>
Cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: : Using enter or using arrows, that is the question


Hi all,
Janina, thanks for the suggestion, but no, I am writing this in python,
alsamixer is written in C as far as I know.
It is just the way  I have written the code which kind of precludes the
up/down arrow thing, and that I do not really see what is so wrong with
the current way things are done.
What I might consider doing, would be to replace the two options, one for
up and one for down, with one option, e.g.
Playback volume 30 percent
I can then make it use two other keys, e.g. pageup and pagedown or f2 and
f3 to go softer or louder.
I am not that keen on doing it, as it deviates from the way things are
selected and used throughout the rest of the program.
The up/down arrows are already used to move among the options.
Left and right arrows would be the obvious choice, but I am using speakup
and it will say space if I use them.
One can also make the keys configurable later.
One needs the percentages when e.g. trying to get a silent soundcard
going, and if I take it out there, how would you know at what levels the
controls are?

  Hope this make sens.
Willem

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Hmmm, I hadn't considered that simply repeated presses of enter would
> continue to adjust levels in realtime. That just might be good enough,
> imo.
>
> RE: How to put such behavior on the up/down keys, alsamixer is likely
> the source to copy from.
>
> Janina
>
> Chuck Hallenbeck writes:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I prefer to remain witgh the use of enter to make adjustments in
>> controls suchaas Master, for instance, which makes a lot of sense given
>> that upward adjustment and downward adjustment are offered as separate
>> items in the menu for that control. Arrowing to the upward item and
>> pressing enter makes the adjustment and leaves the control selected,
>> so that pressing enter repeatedly makes a series of  adjustments in
>> the same direction. It's beautiful to see the percent figure change and
>> hear the perceived loudness change in sync with the numeric value. I'm
>> not sure how one would put the entire job of making adjustment onto
>> the arrow keys.
>>
>> Just my $0.02 worth.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
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