getting orca and espeakup/speakup to work together

[Janina Sajka]

Well, another way to get similar results is to launch the gui by hand,
not via systemd. Long live startx.

The more things you start automagically, the more things there are that
can, and eventually will go awry. Why ask for more trouble? The
brilliance of Speakup is that it can be available to work even when the
boot fails. But, if you're starting the gui automatically, and it fails,
you have much less recourse.

Years ago I discovered the wisdom of this approach. I'd plug my laptop
into some hotel's ethernet, only to have my boot fail over some gui
based message about accessing their network. I discovered I could put
myself back in control by booting to a console login and then dealing
with bringing up the network.

Janina

John G Heim writes:
> Nah, it would be fine for emergencies. For example, suppose your GUI
> interface freezes, orca dies or at least stops responding. You would still
> be able to get to a character console and start killing processes.
> 
> Another thing would be that you could have speakup read boot messages via
> the PC speaker so at least you'd know it is booting.
> 
> 
> On 11/20/18 10:32 PM, Tom Fowle wrote:
> > Since the PC speaker is driven from one bit with no smoothing or filtering,
> > the results would probably be nothing short of ghastly.
> > 
> > I seem to recall an experimental dos TTS that tried it with expected
> > results.
> > Tom Fowle
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 04:17:36PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > I remember there used to be a way to use the pc speaker as a sound
> > > card. I seem to recall it was a kernel driver, but it could have been
> > > through alsa itself. A quick web search gives me a linux journal
> > > article from 1997, but nothing besides that. So, short of checking the
> > > config choices for a modern 4.x kernel, I don't know if this is still
> > > an option. Even if it is still an option, I suspect the speech
> > > wouldn't be very intelligible.
> > > 
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 03:49:10PM -0600, John G Heim wrote:
> > > > Is there any way to get speakup to work through the PC speaker?
> > > 
> > > 
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Janina Sajka

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The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
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