Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux

Wed Jan 31 10:11:10 EST 2018

OK. This isn't bad, actually.

You do have Speakup. That's good.

Your kernel is a bit old, and that could matter especially vis a vis the
recently published Intel exploits which has most of us trying to keep
our kernels very up to date. My arch is currently on 4.14.15, installed
yesterday.

Forget voxin. If you get it and it works, great. But it's ancient code
relying on ancient C++ libraries. Best to focus on espeak.

And, for espeak, see if you have the command:

spd-say

You should be able to hear output from a command like:

spd-say "hello world"

If that works, your next step is to get espeakup installed and wired in.
This is the connector between espeak and Speakup. It's not the same as
how Orca TTS support is wired in.

hth

Janina

PS: Still prefer arch, but you might be almost there with Kali after
all.

Janina

Timothy Breitenfeldt writes:
> Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali
> because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep
> in mind that arch is a better option for this though.
> 
> The output of
> locate speakup.ko
> 
> /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko
> 
> For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to
> install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now.
> Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup.
> I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all.
> 
> TJ Breitenfeldt
> 
> On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES at oracle.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux distro.
> >  Ubuntu server is another good choice.
> >
> > If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice.
> > The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian talking
> > installer.  I haven't checked lately but if I remember right speakup does
> > not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be working on a custom
> > kali version that will be more accessible (when I have a few minutes).
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at rednote.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> > Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
> >
> > So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a rather
> > oddball choice.
> >
> >
> > The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running
> > Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with Speakup, or
> > whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once again, what's the
> > output of:
> >
> > locate speakup.ko
> >
> > Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like Arch
> > which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking installation
> > available:
> >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.archlinux.org_index.php_TalkingArch&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=JUxYZ5Z1WwEmJvd1TAXM8buhPH2soZMlw95_z0Owg2o&e=
> >
> > If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly
> > install a GUI desktop.
> >
> > There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a functioning
> > system with minimul fuss.
> >
> > Janina
> >
> > Timothy Breitenfeldt writes:
> >> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am
> >> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class
> >> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to
> >> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while,
> >> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for
> >> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca.
> >>
> >> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running on
> >> Kali.
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.or
> >> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvl
> >> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp
> >> 9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=vmyx_v68qcFfCRezof
> >> UMWegnKnffKCl31dEy6rITmwc&e=
> >>
> >> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup
> >> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup
> >> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command.
> >>
> >> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn
> >> next quarter along with other operating system concepts.
> >>
> >> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume
> >> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to
> >> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)?
> >>
> >> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> TJ Breitenfeldt
> >>
> >> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser <kirk at reisers.ca> wrote:
> >> > To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui
> >> > console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of
> >> > the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome and
> >> > gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Timothy,
> >> >>
> >> >> Welcome to speakup :)
> >> >>
> >> >> There is
> >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.org_spkguide.txt&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=2x78Ze1FfDGA2IUei89_yMxCCO9K_Rnin6X8pL2i0yU&e=
> >> >> which should help.
> >> >> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko and
> >> >> the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So for
> >> >> example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also use
> >> >> software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth.
> >> >> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above.
> >> >>
> >> >> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need.
> >> >> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech
> >> >> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting
> >> >> stuck then we can help more :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers!
> >> >> Okash
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt
> >> >> <timothyjb310 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really
> >> >>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the
> >> >>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple
> >> >>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't
> >> >>> get it to work with the instructions given. Does anyone have any
> >> >>> suggestions on how to get speakup running on Kali, as well as how
> >> >>> to switch from Gnome desktop to just a console?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt
> >> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> >>> Speakup mailing list
> >> >>> Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> >> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeaku
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> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup
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> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Well that's it then, colour me secure!
> >> >
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> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Speakup mailing list
> >> > Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.
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> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.or
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> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka
> >
> > Linux Foundation Fellow
> > Executive Chair, Accessibility
> > Workgroup:	https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__a11y.org&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=PXVu7U_kanhN-aKcPDscAHyyaf7GhLU-wRpu7umHkEM&e=
> >
> > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
> > Chair, Accessible Platform
> > Architectures	https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.w3.org_wai_apa&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=BGkV5BqduYuktvO4jol1R-9R9DWYFbBP-C4fHDOgiPE&e=
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=EiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=vgv29pCbGvnzzG0MMsbC16KKZTQtkg1qaQxn4V-ig7w&e=
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup at linux-speakup.org
> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:	http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures	http://www.w3.org/wai/apa